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Is it possible to over dominate a dog?

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Dexterrocks · 16/12/2010 20:43

We have a 2 year old rescue dog who is extremely submissive. Should we be less dominant with him or do you think we should continue to be highly dominant?

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midori1999 · 17/12/2010 00:19

It can take ages to get an older dog used to a crate. I would never shut a dog in that wasn't already happy to spend time on it's own in there and go in by itself. If the only way he would go in there was if you went in first and then you were shutting him in, tbh, it's not suprising he was getting distressed.

Obviously it's up to you if you want to use a crate or not, but they are a great tool and a great confidence giver to dogs as it's the dogs own little den where he cannot be disturbed. My oldest dog isn't bothered about the crate and we nevr use them once puppies are toilet trained/can be relied upon not to chew, but we have kept one for the youngest dog as he is quite insecure and he loves it. The younger two Goldens are very envious of his lovely crate and it's quite funny to see two adult Golden Retrievers and a lab x staff all squeeze into a 3ft crate. It's barely big enough for an adult Golden to get in alone. Grin

If you wanted to try the crate again, it has to be a very gradual thing. Feed the dog near the crate but not in it, do trainign near the crate, gradually move feeds nearer the crate and then once the dinner can be fed right by the open crate door, leave some chicken just inside the door. Don't make any fuss, just leave it there for the dog to see. Tie a temtping toy in the crate so if the dog wants it it has to go in there, always make sure lots of tasty treats are left inside the crate so if the dog ever does go in it starts to associate the crate with great things. He might never want to go in, but over a long period of time he probably would. Never shut him in until he is happily seeing the crate as his den and even then it has to be very gradual. Initially shutting the door, giving a treat through the door and instantly opning it again, building up. It can be a very long process, but the dog must feel confident with each stage before you move on.

It sounds like you think a lot of the dog, he's lucky to have found you.

silentcatastrophe · 17/12/2010 09:44

Our dogs are allowed pretty much where they like, as long as they move when we ask them to.
One of them seemed to be submissive. In fact he really wants to rule the world, but doesn't have the know-how. He had not been socialised as a pup and had no idea of anything outside. He is actually quite a bossy dog.

JaxTellersOldLady · 18/12/2010 21:04

I would just like to say that I currently have a Cane Corso (Italian Mastiff) snoring and farting fast asleep on my sofa next to DH, Loofa lying next to me asleep and pupstar on the floor chewing a bone.

Not 1 of my 3 'dangerous dogs' are dominating me, nor are they above their station. TAking the total piss... absolutely, but thats ok with me.

If I say off they all move sharpish.

PS - Cane still needs a new home. Smile

SeaGreen · 21/12/2010 00:48

Dexterrocks - you seem to have done things great so far - i would say you should figure out what works best for you in terms of couch access and cuddles.

you can do the whole enter house first, wait in front of food till given signal to eat thing (i do) but also do the curl up on couch together thing (i do that too, all the time!)
regarding the couch/ bed, the ONLY thing i would say from my personal experience is that if your dog starts trying to push humans off the couch/bed so he can sleep on 'his' spot then you'll have to show a bit of tough love and wait his turn.
oh and if you dont want him on all the furniture, then you could clearly tell him which ones he is allowed on, and which not. they're so smart, they learn really quickly!

all the best with your lovely lad!

SeaGreen · 21/12/2010 00:49

sorry that should have been 'and make him wait his turn', not 'and wait his turn'!

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