Cheese - as a reward - yeah or neah ?

[Avantia]

Need a more tempting reward to help with recall .

18 week lab quite good on recall but once other dogs are about gets a bit more tricky - so whilst training her need to up the reward a bit . Another dog walker today suggested cheese ?

Yeah. Smellier the better. I keep cheddar in a Tupperware box with an old Parmesan rind. Mine love it [hgrin]

Yep. Ours would leap through flaming hoops for cheese. They can smell it from five miles away. Think it might even be a toss up between a squirrel and cheese if I stood there with a big lump of something blue and fetid.

I was making a chickpea crumble yesterday and added some grated cheese to the topping. Within seconds of removing the cheese from the fridge, I was surrounded by salivating hounds all looking hopeful. [hsmile]

Yes, mine too love cheese, they definitely prefer mature to meduim cheddar though...

Have you tried liver cake? Disgutsing to make, but dogs love it, you can google a recipe. Mine also like salami, tubes of primula cheese (squirt a bit out and let them lick the end, keep for doggy use only...) and, something they are never usually allowed, schmackos. (someone had them at ringcraft one day and my dog went mental for them!) Keep all treats small so the dog stays interested/not full up. If there's a chance of getting too fat, reduce rations accordingly.

You can also buy some sort of fish skin things in PAH. Disgusting and very expensive, but much adored by my dogs. They definitely stink...

It doesn't seem to agree with my puppy's tum. Maybe I gave her too much. I was going to try liver, but I have no idea how to cook it for her, I don't think she would like it flambéed with Marsala wine, but then again she might! Someone told me to boil it with some cloves of garlic and then chop it onto little squares and cook it in a very low oven for a couple of hours as this dries it out and it keeps for ages as it is then a bit like jerky. Anyone know if this would be right? Thanks

Cheese - yes!
I used to bake marmite treats as well.

Liver - try and nuke in microwave to dry it out.
no garlic needed - stinky enough.

I love my puppy to bits but I hate liver , I need to work myself up to that one. In the meantime will give the cheese a go .

Be careful with liver as it can cause the runs quite easily so use very sparingly

schmackos - my dog is addicted to them. At a certain time in the evening he sits by 'his' cupboard giving meaningful looks. He knows he'll only get one out of me but tries it on with DD.

For training, they can be torn into very small pieces.

Chopped hot dogs work well too.

Blondie'll come and give me stick, though [hgrin]

Chopped hot dogs sounds a bit like cannibalism round here

Ha ha Grimma! Sorry, my love [hgrin]

cheese is a fab training aid, stinkier the better.

I took some 'stars' along to training on Wednesday but my pup was not interested, even though they stunk to high heaven of fish!

She is a GSD and they are not usually known for greediness being food motivated.

Will try stinky cheddar next Wednesday, just tiny tiny pieces though.

coffee marmite treats, that sounds interesting. Please tell me more.

I tried the hot dog, funny tummy.

I tackled the liver this morning, first I simmered it and then cut it into tiny pieces before putting it in the over for about an hour and twenty on a very low heat. It is now cooling and I will just pop it in a container when it is stone cold. I presume it will keep for ages, as I will only give a few pieces every now and then. Belle just had one piece, I have never seen her sit so attentively!

The trainer at our puppy class had liver cake training treats last week. Rory smelt them straight away and almost mugged her for some. He really liked it. She dished out the recipe and I think most of us had made it by this week. WTWTW has listed a recipe for it in the "New Puppy Thread". Our one was very similar but used plain flour instead of self raising and had slightly different proportions.

It makes lots and you can freeze it. I didn't cut mine into small enough pieces, so will have to re-chop after each bag is defrosted.

But it defintely passed the "Lab" test!

thanks purplefrog, am off to find the recipe on new pups

Searching for that recipe...
will post when I retrieve it from the mess that is my filing system.

Our Rottys absolutely love cheese. Only have to hear the fridge open........

have tried the cheese which Mally loves, however what a stinky poo the day after !!!

DH said he will do the liver recioe for me - found WTWTW recipe from the new puppy thread

Liver cake

8oz lambs (or any other) liver
4oz self raising flour
2 eggs
2 cloves garlic or 2 tsps garlic puree

Put all ingredients in a blender and whizz until mixture is smooth, pink and runny. Pour into a greased swiss roll tin (I line it with baking parchment) and bake in oven at gas mk 4, 180C. for 30-40 minutes.

Leave to cool and cut into bite size pieces.

At PAH they have an offer on the fish skins at the moment. I got 2 packs of fish braids yesterday for £4
(I think they are £2.99 each)
my pup loves them. I might cut the braids up
for some small sized treats. They really do stink but also help keep their teeth clean due to being so abrasive.

Another vote for frankfurter pieces.
We've also found gingernut biscuits work brilliantly - no faffing around with cooking & choppping & makes a handy snack for DD when she gets a bit peckish out walking

Well I must say that the cheese and two sharp blows on the whistle really works !!

Whilst out this morning I was complimented this morning on my recall ( or should that have been Mally )

Avantia - how do you train them to come with a whistle? Do you not have every whistle trained dog running to you?

I have brought a Acme dog whistle - in fact two - each model has a number on it so if you should lose one then yo can order the same one with same pitch etc.

dog whistles

I called her as normal 'Mally come come' and also give two pips on the whistle , reward when she comes back - maintain this and then just revert to using whistle (and reward).

one pip for sit - ask to sit as normal and immediate follwiing it with one pip . Then dont use word sit

Basically that is it .

I don't get all dogs running to me as not mnay of them are whistle trained and also each dog tends to know their whistle hence the importance of knowing the model and number.

I have done this as I don't constantly want to keep having to call her . Still early days yet .. .

She is from gundog / working stock so is quite receptive to a whistle.

article here on whistle training