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OMG. My mum is pregnant and the father is my brother

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DaphneSparkle · 20/09/2010 21:50

AIBU to email Jeremy Kyle and confront them both?

Mum's owner was a bit lax, letting her escape when she was in heat.

Seriously, is there likely to be any problems with the puppies? Anyone know?

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kormachameleon · 20/09/2010 21:52

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JaynieB · 20/09/2010 21:53

Bit inbred? Depends a bit on the dogs - are they pedigrees?
A friend of mine had English setters which were lovely but terribly dim and rather inbred to start with, they had the same happen as you - 3 pups survived and were mostly ok, but possibly even dimmer than their parents!

DaphneSparkle · 20/09/2010 21:55

No, I suppose it is not funny. No idea if the puppies will be affected.

There are 4 puppies from previous litters still in the village.

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DaphneSparkle · 20/09/2010 21:56

Not pedigrees, maltese terrier crossed with cavalier king Charles. I actually suspect that there was something else in there as my brother is much bigger than the other dogs. He is 3x my size.

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JaynieB · 20/09/2010 22:01

Not much you can do about it now though. I'm no expert, but would have thought there is a possibility the pups could be affected, but if the dogs have a more diverse DNA to start with it may mean there is less likelihood of problems.
Will you get your dog spayed afterwards?

It's not a nice idea, but if your dog is only recently pregnant some vets will spay her now.
I got a bitch from the RSPCA a few years ago who they thought may have been mated prior to them taking her in and insisted that I got her spayed asap (they did provide a voucher to cover the costs).

MmeLindt · 20/09/2010 22:11

Ok, i can see I have confused everyone. Sorry. I am Daphne's owner. Her mum is pregnant. She is not my dog.

LadyBlaBlah · 20/09/2010 22:13

Are you pretending to be a speaking dog?

Who has shagged their own son?

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JaynieB · 20/09/2010 22:14

Ah. Re-read your post :)
Forgive me - it's been a long day, I've been to Ikea Confused

Gigantaur · 20/09/2010 22:14

The owner needs to see a vet.

A cat i know had been impregnated by a close relative ( we suspect a brother) and her kittens were all deformed and died very soon after birth.

it was horrific.

please don't put the dog through that.
try and speak to the owner and impress upon her the urgency of getting medical help, and then spayed!

midori1999 · 20/09/2010 22:16

How pregnant is she? Alizin, an injection (two injections actually) to stop the pregnancy continuing can be given up to six weeks after the mating. Or, the vet might agree to 'emergency' spay to end the pregnancy. (not all vets are comfortable with this)

There is more likely to be problems where inbreeding occurs, even is crossbreeds as if any recessive conditions are more likely to become apparent. (eg. the puppies will inherit a copy from each parent, the parents being more likely to both carry these things because they are related)

Any unplanned litter is a really bad idea, one where the parents are so closely related is a really, really bad idea IMO. Despite what people may think in general, a Mother to Son mating is not something any breeder with an ounce of sense would consider. Line breeding happens within pedigree dogs a reasonable amount, inbreeding like this is very, very rarely done.

MmeLindt · 20/09/2010 22:20

Oh, dear, Gigantaur. That sounds horrible. I can hardly communicate about basics with the owner as she is French and my French is not good enough to talk to her. Will speak to a friend.

Apologies for the speaking dog. She posts on Twitter so it seemed normal for her to post here too. My sympathy for the ikea trip.

musicposy · 22/09/2010 21:57

Our sheltie who is 8 we suspect was the offspring of siblings. Knowing what we know about dogs now, we should never have bought him because the breeder was truly awful. We got him for only £200 because he had no pedigree because "her dogs got out and she didn't know who the father was".

However, it occured to us later that if you're selling a whole litter off all at at least £300 less than the going rate (so potentially losing a couple of grand), wouldn't you have done a DNA test so they had the pedigrees? Well, maybe not if the parents are siblings, because I'm guessing that wouldn't be a valid pedigree.

She did show us the dog she thought was the father and he looked pretty much identical to the mother Hmm.

But I digress. We've never had any serious health problems with him at all. Socialisation problems at first (he was kept shut in a kennel until we got him at 16 weeks), but health is fine. Only slight problem is slightly dodgy eyes (they run a bit at times and we out cold teabags on them which clears it up), but all shelties are a bit prone to this.

So I'd say, it might be a problem, but it might be OK.

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