New Puppy Owners

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I know there are a few of us that have recently picked up new pups.
Were your puppies lovely and calm when you first got them or were they mental straight away?

I can't believe how calm Teddy is being so far. He has slept a lot but even when he is awake, he just nibbles gently on your fingers or rolls his ball with his feet.

He has not had any accidents in the house yet which is a miracle.

I am wondering if this is the calm before the storm?

Spoke too soon re good day. Diarrhoea everywhere, squirting out of backside. I am hoping this is result of several pieces of sausage given by vet nurse exactly 5 hours ago to encourage a worming tablet down (or could it be the worming tablet?). Would that make sense? She is also chewing all sorts of things in the garden, but has managed over a week with no problem doing this, supervised.

Uuuuurk. She is very well otherwise, running around as usual. One towel in bin, several old rugs scrubbed down, do we feed her her normal kibble meal tonight? Damn. Just about to eat ourselves too....

If you hate dealing with liver then this recipe is next best thing - does stink though!

SARDINE CAKE
2 tins of sardines in oil (not brine),
5 eggs,
1 clove of garlic (or powder)
Flour to mix.

Mash sardines, mix in other ingredients to pudding consistency.
Microwave in microwave for 7 mins.
Cut into small squares. Freezes well.

iloverhubarbcrumble I wouldn't give normal kibble tonight have you got any chicken? and a bit or rice.

Worming tablets can cause an upset tummy

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wtwtw whippet -Rudy - 12 weeks - midlands

kid - springer spaniel- Teddy - 11 weeks - east London

iloverhubarb crumble -springer spaniel - Lola - 11 weeks now - SW London

Purplefrog - Labrador - Rory - 10 weeks

musicposy - ? - Poppy - 4 months

Avantia - Labrador - ? - 9 weeks

Lou33 - Patterdale/jack russell cross- Eddie - 9 weeks, english springer spaniel - dora, 8m, and part time we have Boris - miniature sausage dog - 3.5 yrs

Watsthestory - Shih Tzu _ 9 weeks

assumpta - cockerpoo - yet to bring home

booyhoo - ? - Wonderbear - ?

pinkanimal - Siberian husky - Storm - 7 weeks

Minimu1 - resident expert(LOL) - 15 week border collie ,2 labs 5 and 12, 4 year old border collie, foster dog that doesn't count only been here 3 years staffy type cross! - Hants

Good work on the list everyone, thank you, it makes round ups much easier.

minimu fab recipe, thanks.

ilove I would be interested to know if the wormer was Drontal? Puppies can react really badly to it. I always buy wormers (and flea treatments etc) online, they work out unbelievably cheaper, I would recomend Panacur paste as being very well tolerated by young puppies, and it is so easy to give as they love the taste, I get my stuff from Petremidies, but there are loads of other similar sites.

And yes would give plain boiled rice with or without boiled chicken for tonight.

Everything I read said that he wouldn't like to soil his bed. um yeah right, he goes into it to wee!!!! So much for not paper training, it hasn't stopped raining since we got him and he's not happy about outside. Plus he's only 7 weeks so I'm worried about him getting ill.

But we have cracked the crate weeing, it's a bit cruel but I shut the crate so he couldn't go in it to wee and put paper in front of it. And it worked, he weed on it several times so I left the paper down so it had his scent on it and he did a poo on it! So proud.
Last night he knocked his water bowl over as he had a tantrum in the crate. So is it ok for him to not have his water in there overnight? Can he dehydrate overnight or for two hours in the day?

We went to the vets for the first time today and he had his first injection, and a worming tablet. Now hes sleeping which is pretty much all he has done since we got home from the vets.

I think this thread is lovely, a puppy support group, it's nice to be able to get advice from people who are going through the same things.

wtwtw whippet -Rudy - 12 weeks - midlands

kid - springer spaniel- Teddy - 11 weeks - east London

iloverhubarb crumble -springer spaniel - Lola - 11 weeks now - SW London

Purplefrog - Labrador - Rory - 10 weeks

musicposy - ? - Poppy - 4 months

Avantia - Labrador - ? - 9 weeks

Lou33 - Patterdale/jack russell cross- Eddie - 9 weeks, english springer spaniel - dora, 8m, and part time we have Boris - miniature sausage dog - 3.5 yrs

Watsthestory - Shih Tzu _ 9 weeks

assumpta - cockerpoo - yet to bring home

booyhoo - ? - Wonderbear - ?

pinkanimal - Siberian husky - Storm - 7 weeks - Northamptonshire

Minimu1 - resident expert(LOL) - 15 week border collie ,2 labs 5 and 12, 4 year old border collie, foster dog that doesn't count only been here 3 years staffy type cross! - Hants

Hi WTWTW, yes the wormer was Drontal. Poor little thing. Will definitely try Panacur next time. And thanks Minimu and Lou

Have just offered her some cold boiled rice before bed, not interested, think we will have to leave her hungry for the night and let things work through. She is not happy at the mo, does not want to be left in her crate. Will sit with her on my lap (well covered) for abit and watch a DVD with DH tonight so we can keep an eye for first couple of hours...

Ok - night 6 - so the controlled crying ( or rather leave puppy howling ) seems to be working - put to bed at 10pm and we had 10 mins of howling then stopped for about 5 mins , had a final howl and wimper and all quiet ! A great improvement on night 1 .

Now DH is on way home from working late and he has been warned to come in very quietly !

Puppy 10 weeks tomorrow and seems to be getting bigger each day !

I love her to bits but the liver recipe is just a bit too far for me

wtwtw whippet -Rudy - 12 weeks - midlands

kid - springer spaniel- Teddy - 11 weeks - east London

iloverhubarb crumble -springer spaniel - Lola - 11 weeks now - SW London

Purplefrog - Labrador - Rory - 10 weeks

musicposy - ? - Poppy - 4 months

Avantia - Labrador - Mally - 10 weeks

Lou33 - Patterdale/jack russell cross- Eddie - 9 weeks, english springer spaniel - dora, 8m, and part time we have Boris - miniature sausage dog - 3.5 yrs

Watsthestory - Shih Tzu _ 9 weeks

assumpta - cockerpoo - yet to bring home

booyhoo - ? - Wonderbear - ?

pinkanimal - Siberian husky - Storm - 7 weeks - Northamptonshire

Minimu1 - resident expert(LOL) - 15 week border collie ,2 labs 5 and 12, 4 year old border collie, foster dog that doesn't count only been here 3 years staffy type cross! - Hants

Spoke too soon !at it again , bloody boiler starting up might have spooked her .

My neighbours are going to love me - last thing neighbour said to me after seeing puppy when we brought her home was ' Hope she is not going to bark !' said half jokingly but I knew she meant it .

Have you spoken to your neighbour about the noise the dog is making yet?
Might be worthwhile mentioning that you are crate training and that the noise isn't expected to last much longer and of course apologise.

I informed my neighbour that we got a new pup and that he is a bit of a howler. She said she hadn't heard him yet, but thats because he hadn't been left alone.

I've been trying to add a photo of Teddy to my profile but it hasn't been working. I have just managed to load one though so you can have a look at my baby if you like.

haven't seen her since we brought puppy home - will speak with her at weekend . i dont want her barking during the day , go back to work (only two mornings a week) when kids go back to school - so have another week.

Night 2 was really bad, he barked and howled all night with gaps when he must have passed out asleep. Please tell me it gets better. Still unsure what to do with the water, I worry when he doesn't have it in his crate but he will just knock it over and soak his crate anyway. Now after breakfast he is sleeping in the kitchen, because I presume he's tired as he didn't sleep much last night!
The paper is working ok but he still wees in the living room, should there be paper in every room or just one?

lol DD (3) Is playing doctors and giving Storm a check up!!!

Does the crate have to stay in the same place all the time? The only reason i ask is because my husband is mostly up at 5.30 for work and will wake her if she is in the kitchen, so I wondered if I could have her in the living room for night sleep and move her to the kitchen where I will be during the day. The only thing with this is that she would have to do her business in a different area for her first wee, and another area for the rest of the day, especially if she was mid way before I got to her? Would all this be too confusing. Thanks. By the way do they poo first thing after their sleep or just after breakfast?

I'm no expert on toilet training but if I were doing paper training, I would have paper in 1 area, preferably near the door where the dog will go out.

During the night, you should get up to let the dog out for a wee. My pup is almost 12 weeks old and he sleeps through from 12 till 6 without needing a wee.

Wrt the water. I remove teddys water at 10 pm and return it at 6. He sleeps through the night so doesn't 't need to drink/fill up his bladder!
I guess for a dog that is barking or howling during the night, they would probably get thirsty. It does get easier pinkanimal, just hang in there a few more days.

I need to get teddy wormed but the thought of going back to moby's vet really upsets me. I'm close to tears just thinking about the day I left moby there. I'd be bound to cry if I actually went in there. I have emailed them to see if someone can collect the worming tablet for me, will see what they say to that.

Out of all of teddys toys, he has a favourite. My dustpan and brush!

I have started training him to 'leave' something. He however doesn't seem to think he has to leave anything! Let's see how long this will take lol

I used acrate on my 8m old Springer last time and we moved it about to wherever it suited. Had no problems. I dont put water in the crate but you can get special bowls
that hook on the side of the crate to avoid spillage.

Night 4 of crate training last night, not a peep from Eddie between 9.30 and 5.30

Also i have the dubious privilege of taking Boris to have his anal glands emptied this monning. . . . .

Right guys you are making this way too complicated!

1. Do not use paper to train your dog. It is really confusing for the dog and takes much longer.

1. Take them out ever hour or when they wake up or have a meal. Stay outside with the puppy until it wees. I say a word which the puppy associates with weeing and the pup will soon wee on command.

1. Very soon they will get the idea but it will take a while for most dogs to ask to go out so over the next few weeks you have to tell them to go out for a wee and a poo.

1. At night if they are crated many puppys will goes through the night. I never get up in the night for my puppy. If they do wee in the crate say nothing in the morning just clear it up and it will stop soon. If you don't want to clear up wee first thing in the morning then get up in the night let them out once ask them to wee and straight back into the crate.

It usually only takes a short while to get this sorted but you do have to ive it 100% attention to start with.

Re Howling puppies!
Some do and some don't! If you do have a howler it is nothing you have done just the puppy! Usually they stop after about 3 nights. If possible ignore it and do not go down to the puppy in the crate. You can try leaving a radio on low, puttig in a shirt you have been wearing, or DAP which you can get from your vet.

Some of you said about feeling bad about taking the pups from their Mums - believe me they will have a better time with you! Out and about loads of walks being made a fuss off. Generally at this point the Mum has had enough and is not giving the pups the attention they need!

Moving Crates the great thing about the crates is that the dog loves the crate so it does not matter where it is. When you go on holiday take the crate and the dog will settle happily so I would not worry about moving the crate only the hassle for you involved. You may want to try leaving the crate in the kitchen get OH to let dog out for a wee at 5.30 and then back into crate until you get up.

thsnks kid I have just ordered a bolt on bowl. Happy to report that as the rain has finally stopped I just took him out and he just did his first wee in the garden! yay so proud.

What mini says :)

thing is mini and lou the breeder had already been using paper. He is only 7 weeks old so much younger than all of your puppy's. He did do a wee in the garden then come into the house and did a poo but on the paper. He actually went from the living room into the utility room (which is his room) to poo on the paper. reckon thats not too bad, better than pooping on the carpet! or in his bed!

Got my puppies at 7 week never used paper. Just stop using it pinkanimal. You have just proved my point you have a really confused puppy! Outside to wee inside to poo!

In fact my 7 week old puppy never did a wee or poo inside at all.

Just take outside to wee and poo job done. Your pup will be trained so much quicker and easier I promise. You will have to take him out regularly and you are alllowed to swear at me as you are standing in the garden with your umbrella in the rain! but believe me if will be sorted much quicker in the long run. In a couple of days if you are vigilant it should be sorted.

Teddy came to me at 11 weeks already house trained. I still have to watch him and take him to the garden every now and again but we havn't used any paper.

I used pape. With moby and he wasn't house trained completely until 5 or 6 months!

we used paper for the first day or two whilst they got used to the house etc. then ditched the papaer.

we had some accidents, but not overnight ones.

It looks like we might have to add a fireguard to our list of post-puppy purchases....

It is a gas fire with "artificial coal" which we have used about twice in the past 5 years. Last night Rory sneaked over to the fireplace, pinched a "coal" and set off round the house like a bat out of hell. I almost got him under the kitchen table, but at last caught up with him in the hall after he had crunched it into pieces. So, we had to have a visit from Mr Dyson!

That was hilarious - he retired to his crate when I began vacuuming, then decided the crate wasn't safe enough, so disappeared behind DP who was sitting on the stairs. When I switched off he crept out and had a good sniff at the vacuum cleaner.

So, I can't decide if we really need a fireguard or if a large box, weighted down, will get us past the tricky time.

wtwtw whippet -Rudy - 12 weeks - midlands

kid - springer spaniel- Teddy - 11 weeks - east London

iloverhubarb crumble -springer spaniel - Lola - 11 weeks now - SW London

Purplefrog - Labrador - Rory - 11 weeks tomorrow - Fife

musicposy - ? - Poppy - 4 months

Avantia - Labrador - Mally - 10 weeks

Lou33 - Patterdale/jack russell cross- Eddie - 9 weeks, english springer spaniel - dora, 8m, and part time we have Boris - miniature sausage dog - 3.5 yrs

Watsthestory - Shih Tzu _ 9 weeks

assumpta - cockerpoo - yet to bring home

booyhoo - ? - Wonderbear - ?

pinkanimal - Siberian husky - Storm - 7 weeks - Northamptonshire

Minimu1 - resident expert(LOL) - 15 week border collie ,2 labs 5 and 12, 4 year old border collie, foster dog that doesn't count only been here 3 years staffy type cross! - Hants