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New Puppy Owners

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kid · 21/08/2010 17:15

I know there are a few of us that have recently picked up new pups.
Were your puppies lovely and calm when you first got them or were they mental straight away?

I can't believe how calm Teddy is being so far. He has slept a lot but even when he is awake, he just nibbles gently on your fingers or rolls his ball with his feet.

He has not had any accidents in the house yet which is a miracle.

I am wondering if this is the calm before the storm?

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kid · 29/09/2010 22:21

well seeing as they know everything about dog training, I hope they trained Mally everything before they left! Grin

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Avantia · 30/09/2010 07:37

Oh we have had all their 'expertise' - and usual we ignore it . Grin

Curlylox · 30/09/2010 09:46

Lucy has lost her first tooth aahhh, swiftly followed by number 2 within a couple of hours. Kid we have experienced Lucy terrorising our DD but have had to "train" our DD to put a stop to it when things get out of hand as well as us being firm with Lucy if we find she's getting too excited. I swear she will do things when she thinks we're not looking though......the cheeky monkey Grin

PurpleFrog · 30/09/2010 09:59

I had a look in Rory's mouth to see if he has lost any teeth yet. I though at first he had, but the front teeth just have a really big gap in the middle the way his jaw has grown. I can't believe how spaced out all his teeth have become.

I am knackered at the moment. After some really good days of waking up close to 6.00am, I have gone right back to 5.00! I was up at 4.55am yesterday and 5.10am this morning. I tried putting him back to bed yesterday but he was having none of it and started barking, so I had to come back down again. I had hoped his puppy class yesterday would tire him out, but no! Sigh! Looks like I will be heading for bed at 9.00pm tonight.

Curlylox · 30/09/2010 11:02

How old is Rory as Lucy is 21 weeks today? The teeth she lost were the side ones not the front ones.

PurpleFrog · 30/09/2010 13:05

Rory will be 16 weeks on Saturday. I realise I know nothing about dog teething. I was about 13 when I last lived with a pup and don't remember much about the process - except for the relief when needles were replaced with blunt objects. Grin I have just had a hunt on the Labrador Forum and people there are saying that their pups started losing teeth about 15-18 weeks.

Curlylox · 30/09/2010 14:49

Our vet told us she would start losing teeth from 14 weeks, so thought we'd somehow missed seeing them fall out. I'm a complete novice too. I'm a member of Labrador Forums too, although not fully fledged as not paid the £10 annual subscription.

30andMerkin · 30/09/2010 15:14

I need some hand holding with this bloody toilet training!

We've taken the pads away during the day, and I've upped the number of times I take him out. This morning went well, all pees outside, lots of praise, although he did go from 7 till 11.30 without a poo, including after breakfast at 7.30.

Then this afternoon it's all gone to pot, he's crapped inside twice (each time less than 40 mins after he last went out). The lack of pad makes clean up so much more difficult I'm worried I'm not 'ignoring' the indoor mess because it's such a palaver to clean up (resorted to shutting him outside for a few minutes this afternoon so I could scrub the floor).

Because he doesn't seem to have a regular cycle, even though he's fed at regular times, I can't predict when he really needs a poo. So if I take him out and he doesnt' do anything, we end up spending ages in the garden with him distracted/playing/running away from me etc, which I know is also not good.

Crate acceptance during the day is going well so I think we have to try it overnight now, and apologise to our sitters for a night of broken sleep on Saturday.

I never thought I would find a dog so hard - they usually gravitate towards me, but this one seems not to give a damn Sad.

30andMerkin · 30/09/2010 15:29

And now I've just taken him outside and had sit, eye contact and down on voice command for treats all working really well! It's like he knows he is this close to getting sent to the pound (joking...) and then turns on the charm right at the last minute. ARRRGGH.

WhereTheWildThingsWere · 30/09/2010 15:53

Aw 30 you will get there, I can't say it enough he is such a baby, it's just like potty training a child, there will be loads of accidents for ages, I think you just need to accept that.

In all honesty if you did nothing to train your puppy at all, most dogs would still be completely housebroken by adulthood, you will get there.

Is he your first dog btw and what is he (sorry if I have missed that bit).

The general advice when you are training is that the garden is for toilet only, no playing or training as it is a little confusing.

Are you using a trigger word?

Please try not to stress so much I know it is easily said, but in a couple of months you will wonder why on earth you were so worried about itSmile.

30andMerkin · 30/09/2010 16:44

He's my first dog as an adult, I grew up with dogs, as did my DH, and we're both 'dog people' - or thought we were - have happily looked after friends dogs etc etc.

I think the thing that's worrying me is what if he just doesn't want to learn, as everyone else's dogs seem so besotted with them! But we went to puppy class on Tuesday and the first exercise they got us doing was using treats to focus and make eye contact, so we'll work on that.

I also don't think I've found the thing that makes him really excited, but that's possibly because I grew up with a springer spaniel, and when she was really excited she looked like she was about to explode! The only time I get that reaction from the pup is pouring out his food, when he goes apoplectic.

He's a 12 week old labradoodle. We got him at 10 weeks rather than 8, which we thought might make bonding more difficult and toilet training easier (bigger bladder!). For the first few days that didn't seem to be right, as he adjusted to us very quickly and was good about going outside. Now he's got comfortable enough with us to ignore us and we've obviously confused him with the pads!

Garden is a kind of L-shape, so if I take him to one area of it it's clearly for toilet. The other bit we do run around/play/train in because he needs to burn off steam. If he's in the toilet zone and not paying attention/digging etc I either try and call him back to me and say 'Toilet, toilet' about 20000 times, or physically put him back in the right place. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

Deep breath... And thanks for the advice.

30andMerkin · 30/09/2010 17:16

OH and I don't have children yet (and judging by the impact this pup is having on our sex lives and general 'nurturing' confidence, I'm not sure I ever will!!)

WhereTheWildThingsWere · 30/09/2010 17:35

Sorry, that was really presumtious of me wrt children, I do apologize.

Interestingly my last puppy was pre-children and this one is post, this one seems like a piece of cake where I clearly remember the tears I shed over the last one.

Other people dogs and especially other peoples puppies are way easier than your own due to the novelty factor and the ability to give them back (also very true of kids imo). Childhood dogs tend to be a bit rose tinted as you (probably) didn't have to deal with all the crap.

Don't worry about bonding, people get adult dog and forge the strongest bond imaginable.

I personally have never needed to do the 'no inital playing in the garden thing' but it is recomended when you having trouble, so the puppy knows you are in the garden purely for toileting and the quicker he does it the quicker you will go inside for 'fun', he is too small to understand the concept of 'zones' though you can teach himself to relieve himself in one particlar spot, but first you need to tackle getting him to go outside. He hasn't got comfortable enough to ignore you, he just doesn't understand what you want.

I know I keep saying it and I am probably really getting on your nerves but he is so very young, he will change so much in the coming weeks, he need lots of gentleness, encoragement and praise.

And I am not suggesting for a minute that you are not doing these things, it sounds like you are trying to do everything right, but you may be trying just a little too hard, try and just relax and enjoy him, just shrug off the puddles, spend time just watching him, talking to him, cuddling him.

I can hear the frustration in your posts, you are going to end up with a wonderful puppy/dog who is going to adore you, you just need to take a step back and be a little more patient.

30andMerkin · 30/09/2010 18:23

You're not getting on my nerves, you're like the sane voice inside my head! Keep saying it!!

Oh and don't worry about the kids comment, we were TTCing, safe to say this month that's taken a bit of a back seat. It's good in some ways though... my poo tolerances have radically adjusted Wink.

I'm not frustrated with the pup, only with us - did we choose the right one, get him at the wrong time, are we doing it right? The advice is so conflicted - for example if I don't play with him on the garden lawn do I play with him on the wooden floors/patio, and then I set myself off worrying about dyspraxia as he seems to need WAY more exercise than 2x15 minutes!!

I'm trying to give him lots of mental stimulation too - today he had a Kong, a chew bone, a ride in the car, a walk in the park, a walk around town to get him used to some wierd floor surfaces I'll need him to walk on and met about 45 people, a play session with a ball, a play session with a flower pot, a play seesion with a piece of rope toy, a sit/lie down/watch training session, a worming tablet.... I'm exhausted, and he's still FULL of beans!

I know it will come, it's just hard and this is the only place I can vent as my DH is also a bit worried and everyone else just seems to think he's adorable!

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Curlylox · 30/09/2010 19:06

30 it is hard work but please persevere. Really can't offer any advice on toilet training but didn't want you to think you're on your own. Lucy has been crated since she was about 5 or 6 weeks old by breeder and use to have half of it lined with newspaper. When we got her at 8 weeks we continued with this only at night or if I had to pop out to do school run, shopping etc. We had the odd accident indoors (wees only), when that happened we use to put her straight outside (no talking and no eye contact), clean up the mess with hot/warm water with biological powder. She soon got the message. Then think it was about 6 weeks ago or so we noticed when we came down in the morning the newspaper wasn't wet, so we stop putting newspaper down. Lucy will sit by the back door if she wants to wee/poo and if we don't see her she will make herself heard. Also told by other dog owners they don't like to "mess" in their crate/where they sleep.

30andMerkin · 30/09/2010 19:49

Thanks all. We just seem to be going backwards and backwards. I can cope with going out every 45 minutes to an hour no pobs, but he came in this evening from the garden (having peed and pooed), and just 25 minutes in did a MASSIVE wee on the living room floor. I don't know where it bloody comes from!

WhereTheWildThingsWere · 30/09/2010 19:52

Bless you I am going to keep saying......

You are doing a brilliant job, you are doing a brilliant job, you are doing a brilliant job, you are doing a brilliant job........

BUT.....I am also going to have to keep saying chill the fuck out woman

Wink Grin

I know you are frustrated with yourself, that is what I meant, you want your puppy to be perfect now and if he isn't it must be your fault.

Do not want to draw the parenting card at all, but honestly this is what kids knock right out of you and I think that is why I am finding my current puppy so easy.

Your dog will be great one day and when he is you will miss the little monster he was and pine for another pup.

He will want more exercice atm pups have no idea what is good for them, keep doing what you are doing, but try to relax.

WhereTheWildThingsWere · 30/09/2010 19:57

wats he need to find out what it is for first, a frozen kong is a big challenge for a little pup.

Start with a smear of peanut butter or cream cheese and maybe some tiny pieces of digestive biscuit just inside the hole so it is really easy for him to get it out be rewarded, then build up.

30andMerkin · 30/09/2010 20:15

Oh god, and AGAIN! Every hour is just a joke. He's a one-dog weeing machine. Seriously, the only way I'm going to be able to stop him weeing inside at this rate is if I stand underneath him with a bloody bucket.

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littlemisslost · 30/09/2010 21:59

troubles here too Sad
after being SOO good weeing and pooing outside almost everytime, he now seems to be doing it everywhere inside the house Sad and he is REALLY a pain when we are eating! we tried putting him in his crate while we eat and he just barks like mad, we tried feeding him at the same time but he just keeps barking and jumping up at us when were trying to eat and he knocked my hot coffee out my hand today and I was so cross Angry
I love him and on the whole it has been a very good first 2 weeks but the eating thing is really stressful, if we put him outside he goes mad and barks/howls at the window and its not fair on the neighbours GRRRR Wink

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