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My experience of postnatal insomnia - reassurance

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22Robin · 26/09/2023 16:24

I wanted to share my story here to hopefully provide some reassurance with anyone battling with postnatal insomnia.

I will start by saying that if you are stuggling with insomnia postnatally, it really deserves the attention of a postnatal psychiatrist. You can hopefully access this help through the perinatal mental health team in your area (I am based in the UK).

When my son was 3 months old, I stopped sleeping. At first I went a few nights with about 2-3 hours sleep and it snowballed from there into 3 months of night after night of no sleep at all to just a few hours here and there. I have never suffered from previous mental health issues or poor sleep so this problem really seemed to appear from nowhere for me. I had had a traumatic birth experience, ending in C-section and a very high (hypomanic) experience after delivery and had been understandably stressed with adapting to life with a newborn but I had been feeling well in myself and was enjoying life. That's why the insomnia came as a bit of a mystery and as a shock. My heart goes out to you if you are experiencing this because it is really scary and takes away so much joy. It was awful to not have slept for 2 days and pick my baby up out of the crib knowing that I hadn't slept for that long and had another full day of care in front of me.

The longer the insomina went on, the worse my mental health became. I really think the insomnia was a result of a chemical imbalance in my brain because my body was entirely without its normal circadian rhythm and I was doing everything I could; excercise, supplements, early morning light walks, no caffeine etc to help my body get back into balance. All on top of looking after baby.

Help eventually arrived with the input of the perinatal mental health team in my area. With a lengthy period of experimentation they helped me with medication that got me sleeping again. I won't bore you with details of the period of experimentation but eventually a low dose of Olanzapine (2.5mg) and Mirtazapine (15mg) helped to restore my sleep cycle. These medications were both used off label to help with sleep due to their sedative side effects. To start with I believe I was put on far too high a dose of these meds and they made me feel very depressed and lacking in motivation - but at the lower doses they have helped me no end. Having my sleep return has given me confidence again and much needed rest. I hate having to rely on medication for sleep but I really felt I got to the point where I needed psychiatric intervention. Something had gone very wrong with my nervous system to be that sleepless. Whether it was hormonal, mental health related (depression, anxiety or mood disorder) or trauma related I will never know but it could have been a mixture of all of the above.

The few people I have come into contact with who have experienced postnatal insomnia have all been helped by a form of mental health medication. One woman was helped by Sertraline (this happened to make my symptoms worse), or another by Lexapro (which I never tried). I share this because there may be a combination for you out there that can really help with your insomnia.

My son is now 16 months old and the combination of Olanzapine and Mirtazapine has been working well for me for 6 months. I'm still upset to be having to take these medications and I do fear that they will wear off in their effectiveness but I have also been reassured by my GP that this is unlikely to happen. It is also hard to ween off these medications and I fear that my insomnia will lie beneath these meds. Still, in the absence of thorough research and understanding out there of postnatal insomnia, I needed to try something for my son's sake. People need to take meds for all sorts of health conditions and if I need to stay on these meds for life, then I will.

I hope if you are going through this awful condition, you may find this story of help. I would say that the orgiginal help I was offered through my GP was not helpful. They advised I read 'The Effortless Sleep Method' - which is not tailored to the experience of postnatal insomnia.

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rsx2025 · 14/01/2026 08:38

hi there, thank you for your reply - honestly, talking to you has done so much more good than the myriad professionals i have been referred to!

Ive ordered the book and will also try a 5HTP supplement. I’ve now upped my dose to 15mg and, while it hasnt stopped the hourly wakes, i do feel a little calmer and have stopped dreading the nights quite so much. Did you also experience the frequent night wakes? (i fall asleep fine at 10pm now, but after 2am i’m in and out of very light sleep until morning). I wonder if this just needs time?

Its also reassuring you mention bringing variety back to your day - im going back to work in a couple of months after what I now realise was a much-too-long maternity leave - the monotony isnt really helping my situation! Imm hoping going back into the world will somehow shift my brain back into a better, deeper sleep.

Youre so right about the pressure for us to ‘do it all’ - the only thing ive done this year is survive , and even that was worryingly tough at times. Im quite a hardy person usually so naively didn't expect motherhood to hit me quite so hard, but I now realise i have been stuck in fight or flight the entire time. its so hard to process such a huge life change, and the support out there just isnt adequate.

I’m just so happy youve come out the other side - im sure youre giving so many others hope too.

22Robin · 14/01/2026 19:29

Hi rsx2025,

Yes, for the first time in my life, from when my son was 3 months old, I had incredibly interrupted sleep, if any sleep at all. When I did get to sleep, I would often wake up half an hour later, as if a lightening bolt had gone through my body. And the sleep I did get often felt like incredibly light sleep, the likes of which I had never experienced before. Sometimes I had sort of waking dreams where I thought I was awake. The sleep I did get wasn't restful at all, and it was so hard when people tried to dismiss what I was experiencing, or suggested that because I had had a total of 4 hours sleep over a 24 hour period (which could be very broken up as you say) that that was okay/survivable.

The good news is that I am living proof that your sleep can improve with time. I now sleep like I remember sleeping before I had a baby, albeit with the help of a small amount of mirtazapine, 5htp and magnesium!

When I was struggling postnatally, I was originally prescribed Olanzapine (an antipsychotic), it got me sleeping again but like mirtazapine, it is not a knock out medication. I felt the high doses I was put on were not helpful for me, and I felt very depressed, but a dose of 2.5mg was tolerable for me and did get me sleeping better from the first dose. I just mention this in case it is something you want to explore, but also, it sounds as if the mirtazapine should do just as good a job and is quite similar I think.

Even on mirtazapine, I used to fall asleep from 10-12pm and just sleep through til 5 or 6 if baby would allow and sometimes there were night wakes too. It certainly didn't provide a real knock out, but it took the edge off. Then when other areas of my life began to stabilise, I noticed further improvements in my circadian rhythm and sleep/wake cycle.

This winter for example is the first winter since having my son (who is now 3.5) where I feel that deep, sleepy feeling setting in at about 10pm. That is what I used to feel! My body providing a strong signal that sleep time is near. Whereas when I was postnatal, it was as if my brain was no longer firing those helpful, sleepy signals. It is as if the brain is temporarily re-wired to provide for being awake for 24 hours of the day. It's awful! And it can feel very unfair if you're motherhood brain update includes insomnia for sure. I now sleep continually again without the lightening bolt wake ups. But it's honestly not because you've done anything wrong or cope with stress less well. It probably just means that your brain got more affected on the motherhood brain spectrum, this time round. I also wonder if c-sections or traumatic births can affect some more or make them more prone to postnatal insomnia.

I'm glad to hear you'll be starting work soon. I honestly think the diversity piece is so important I really think it's so important for mental health and the brain to have variety in life. So I do think this could help with your sleep, along with time and things all settling again.

I would also say that another thing that has improved and encouraged my sleep (although I admit I have the luxury of time out to be able to do this), but once my energy started returning, I joined a gym and learnt how to lift weights. There is something about it, that really tired me out in a way that cardio didn't in the same way. I also feel like my brain health has benefitted from the intensity and improved circulation of blood around the body etc. I'm not suggesting that you have the time of energy to do this right now, but maybe keep it in the back pocket as an idea for when things get just a bit more manageable, because it could be, that like me, this gives you the next leap in terms of getting your sleep back in synch.

It's a long old process but it can get better. But I'm sorry, it is utterly brutal when you are battling through each day with a small baby. You are right, there should be so much more support.

Please take care X

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22Robin · 14/06/2026 14:22

A hopeful update: I hope!

I originally started this thread with my story. I can now confirm that I am entirely off the medication that I started taking postnatally to manage the insomnia. I am sleeping fairly normally, if a bit less well and am enjoying feeling a whole lot more like myself.

Do feel free to ask any questions,

X

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peps2917 · 16/06/2026 09:35

Hi there @22Robin

I had my baby boy in January 2026 and now he’s 5 months old. I’ve always been a good sleeper but work did sometimes make me worry at night and struggle to get to sleep. My baby sleeps through the night completely and he has recently been moved to his own room which I’m not sure I was prepared for. I am combi feeding.

In the past week or so (to be honest sort of since he was moved to his own room) I have been really struggling with sleep. I can’t get to sleep for about 4 hrs sometimes, and if I do fall asleep quickly, I sometimes can’t seem to get back to sleep if I need to wake up. It is HORRIBLE and sleep has now become this big deal. I am taking melatonin (very small dose) and that helps sometimes but not always… I am meditating too and exercising etc. I called my GP and she said they can’t medicate me as I’m still breastfeeding. I am combi feeding and I definitely give more formula than breastmilk but still. I’m wonder if you were breastfeeding when the doctors prescribed you? I have never had mental health issues but I’m feeling really desperate now as my baby sleeps so well...

22Robin · 16/06/2026 11:13

Hi peps2917,

Thank you for your message and I agree, it is absolutely horrible not getting sleep when you are permanently busy with one of the toughest jobs - looking after a tiny baby. Like you, I had never struggled with sleep or any particular mental health challenges before coming a Mum. I do think, sometimes this sleep deprivation could be the result of the intensity of what happens to some women's nervous systems when they become Mums. It would kind of make sense right? That biology would promote a 'wakefulness' and 'alertness' in some women that is much more acute. But it feels mighty unfair for those of us that suffer this when it seems that plenty of Mum's do not struggle so badly with this.

I decided to start formula feeding my baby when I was prescribed with the olanzapine/mirtazapine (originally prescribed off label for their sedative side effects to help with sleep). This was a difficult decision for me as I was very much exclusively breastfeeding up to this point, had been feeling really confident about the breastfeeding and had actually enjoyed it. It was a real loss for me to give up breast feeding so that I could take the medication, but it got to the point for me where my mental health had to come first. And actually, my son accepted the transition to exclusively bottle fed quite well and much better than I expected.

I do wonder if some of what happens to some women with postnatal insomnia is that the fear of not getting sleep, is also an unhelpful driver. But I would also say that it's really hard to not fear not getting sleep when you are totally exhausted and out of balance. And I also think there is something going on at a biological level that is not related to the anxiety of not sleeping. It felt like my 'off switch' just was not functioning.

I'm sorry you have this dilemma. It may be possible to perhaps access some CBT for insomnia through your GP if you do not want to go down the medication pathway. That being said, it might be at some point that you do decide to exclusively bottle feed so that you can take something with a sedative effect that can help you at least get some sleep and feel a bit more in control. But I recognise that this is probably a really difficult decision.

It sounds like you are being so strong to navigate things. I trust that your nervous system will re-balance with this and you will sleep much more like you used to again. For me, it has been a long road but the meds did really help me take the edge off. I find these days, because life is less intense, that I don't panic as much about not sleeping and this probably, in itself aids sleep. But I also feel like my body is just doing some of the things it used to do again, like feeling sleepy at the end of the day. With the insomnia, I didn't even feel that wave of sleepiness.

Sorry I have said a lot here! I hope some of it might be helpful and do reach out again if I can share anything else or if you have any other questions. X

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Pelvicpaininthebum · 19/06/2026 22:09

22Robin · 14/06/2026 14:22

A hopeful update: I hope!

I originally started this thread with my story. I can now confirm that I am entirely off the medication that I started taking postnatally to manage the insomnia. I am sleeping fairly normally, if a bit less well and am enjoying feeling a whole lot more like myself.

Do feel free to ask any questions,

X

@22Robin this is a lovely update, I am so pleased for you!

I have just started tapering off mirtazapine, planning to take it very slowly as I'm scared of withdrawal symptoms including the insomnia again.

22Robin · 20/06/2026 10:21

I know, it is scary. I think I realised that a good time to start the taper for me, was when I had more faith that my body had recovered its ability to switch off. At the height of my insomnia and even whilst I was taking all the medication I could not nap during the day for example, even if I wanted to. Then suddenly I realized that I had recovered the ability - about 6 months before I started to seriously taper. I had more faith that my body could do it.

Then I reduced slowly over a year and a half! So it was not quick and I was scared. But every reduction that stabilized was a success. And if things went wonky I just took a bit more for a while and then tried again.

I am certain that starting to weight lift in the gym again really helped. It makes you tired on a whole new level.

Also, I started taking one capsule of 5htp as a given throughout my taper and I still take one a night. You're not supposed to with mirtazapine but it seems to have helped me. I still take one a night but it is probably placebo.

I got to the point where I just took a tiny, tiny scraping of mirtazapine/night. And then I chose to stop entirely on the first day of my period because I know that's when I tend to get a good wake of sleepiness. Still, the first few weeks are a bit of a challenge but as long as I got 4 hours of continued sleep per night, I saw that as a win and I could nap during the day a bit if I was exhausted. But this did not happen every night, some nights I would sleep through just fine. For me, it was also a real driver to lose a bit of weight and feel my previous metabolism come back online. I'm only 4 weeks in and some nights are better than others but they are decent enough and things seem to just be getting better. The worsened sleep I now have is absolutely nothing compared to where I originally was. If I sleep from 11-3 and then I'm up for a few hours and then back to sleep from 5-7 - that is a complete win in my books and by this point, fairly average when you've been parenting for 4 years.

Hope this is kind of helpful but I think you will manage this. I have. But there is no rush, just moving so slowly that your body gradually makes the adjustments that it needs to. X

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Pelvicpaininthebum · 20/06/2026 11:44

22Robin · 20/06/2026 10:21

I know, it is scary. I think I realised that a good time to start the taper for me, was when I had more faith that my body had recovered its ability to switch off. At the height of my insomnia and even whilst I was taking all the medication I could not nap during the day for example, even if I wanted to. Then suddenly I realized that I had recovered the ability - about 6 months before I started to seriously taper. I had more faith that my body could do it.

Then I reduced slowly over a year and a half! So it was not quick and I was scared. But every reduction that stabilized was a success. And if things went wonky I just took a bit more for a while and then tried again.

I am certain that starting to weight lift in the gym again really helped. It makes you tired on a whole new level.

Also, I started taking one capsule of 5htp as a given throughout my taper and I still take one a night. You're not supposed to with mirtazapine but it seems to have helped me. I still take one a night but it is probably placebo.

I got to the point where I just took a tiny, tiny scraping of mirtazapine/night. And then I chose to stop entirely on the first day of my period because I know that's when I tend to get a good wake of sleepiness. Still, the first few weeks are a bit of a challenge but as long as I got 4 hours of continued sleep per night, I saw that as a win and I could nap during the day a bit if I was exhausted. But this did not happen every night, some nights I would sleep through just fine. For me, it was also a real driver to lose a bit of weight and feel my previous metabolism come back online. I'm only 4 weeks in and some nights are better than others but they are decent enough and things seem to just be getting better. The worsened sleep I now have is absolutely nothing compared to where I originally was. If I sleep from 11-3 and then I'm up for a few hours and then back to sleep from 5-7 - that is a complete win in my books and by this point, fairly average when you've been parenting for 4 years.

Hope this is kind of helpful but I think you will manage this. I have. But there is no rush, just moving so slowly that your body gradually makes the adjustments that it needs to. X

Thanks so much.... Yeah I'm planning on going slowly and have also been going to the gym for the last few months including some weights.

I'm planning on going from 15 to 7.5mg over the next 8 weeks and then I might hold there or go to to 3.75 over another 8 weeks and then stay there over the winter as I feel insomnia will be harder to deal with over the winter months somehow!

Well done on coming off and I hope your sleep continues to improve! I'm so glad things have worked out for you, you've been so kind on this thread.

22Robin · 20/06/2026 16:52

This sounds like an excellent plan you have. And is also very much the kind of process I went through. Mirtazapine is strange because it is actually more sedating at lower doses but at some point, the lower you go, it can't necessarily always be more sedating. Good luck and believe, you can get there if you just go slow and don't put too much/any pressure on yourself. There's no race, just protecting your health and your sleep.

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