SCHOOL OF SAATCHI BBC2

[nigelslaterfan]

Would like to know what other people thought of this programme. Not sure what I think, too tired probably!

I liked the magnet boy and the video of birds and the video of the tortured swinging lad best. Hated the robot arm.

What about Saatchi not appearing? It does seem excruciatingly grand of him to 'front' a programme and not appear.

I am so glad that someone has started this thread! I watched it the other night and my Husband was laughing as I was shouting all sorts of obscenities at the tele! What a load of pretentious arse-holey nonsense!

I could not agree more with the comment about the whistle over the hand-rail girl. What a load of bloody twaddle! And they were going on about how great it was and how you could tell that the scrawling drawing she did was from the same artist. Probably because they were both crap!!!!!!!!

However, sometimes I love watching shows like this just so I can sit there and shout and rave at the tele for a bit. It feels so good to have a major vent/rant! Will defo watch again for that very reason!

Good to hear some other views. I caught the end of Saturday Review's panel discussing the programme on Radio 4. They were saying that this is a TV prog first of course and Art is sort of the excuse for it.

They also mentioned how televisual the contestants are, the attractive girls, the flamboyant guy etc

Also shouldn't the panel, strictly speaking, judge the art without meeting the artists and finding them 'modest', and likeable or not? I mean Tracey obviously thought magnet boy was adorable. Actually he was a little adorable but that shouldn't really be the point should it?

The whistle thing looked risible to me.

But I have no education in conceptual art, I only have my own responses. Personally I love Emin's work in as much as it seems very authentic to me (although that is clearly a relative term here) and her work stays with me and makes me think about difficult subjects like sexuality and the perception of women. I think the tent of everyone I've slept with is just a brilliant idea.

But presumably modern conceptual art is to some extent about being the first person to do something. Like the artist that wrapped the bridge in fabric. If someone this year wraps a load of bollards in fabric - doesn't that just not count as art because it's just derivative. Don't you have to be first to be the artist in some way?

Didn't watch the programme, but used to work at Saatchi & Saatchi in the 80's and Charles was v reclusive then. You'd see Maurice round and about, but rarely Charles - they had the 6th floor to themselves, and you needed an appointment to go up there!

As you can imagine there was loads of modern art around - one desk had a large grey canvas, slightly textured oil painting, with a vague hint of red behind. Unfortunately the secretary whose desk it was behind thought it was a pin boards - whoops! Cue expensive repair and very red faces!

@ pinboard .. that's utterly brilliant.. and of course means it became a whole new pice of art initself!

Watched the programme last night. My thoughts .. well Good to bump up the profile of art and get the general public talking about it.

what was created was .. well what it was.
The work did seem to create a reaction from the public.. much better than no reaction at all.

What annoys me is art schools ( and yes I've been there lol). manages to teach students to create something and then to talk it up.. in a completely fake intelectual (sp) way.
point in case the 19 year old female art student talking about firstly the whistle.. and then about the rock etc.

Why should you have to tell people what you were trying to achieve or create.. when in fact the piece created should do this for you. therefore if you have to actually say what you were trying to do.. you fail.(imo)

That bit is a complete waste of space. art is art.. you look at it.. you either like it or not.. and hopefully if you have been successful in your quest, you will get a strong reaction to it.

have to say my strongest reaction was to the way the artists, and those around them spoke about the pieces trying to sound arty and as if they understood the whole concept.. juggling their conversation between each other as so not to be shown up.

now personally a clip of people trying to talk arty.. replayed over and over on a big screen in a darkened room.. would pip the post

Anyway loved the little boy who said.. ' i like the swingy climbing thing.. but the rock.. is just a rock. so I didn't like it' or such like words.

I loved this programme!
Just watching this now on iplayer.
I have never been so bemused by how such kack can be produced by so many pretty people.

The bloke who acutally earns his living by painting is quite good though...

Yes, Martin Creed's advice was about as helpful as a piece of blu-tack stuck to a wall. Oh, hang on....

i am LOVING at the art programmes on atm. whistle girl brought back so many memories of my own days standing in crits.

I loved the ghost fishermens net huts thought, made with scaffolding and netting. Thought they were rather beautiful. Watched it for the 1st time last night and now feel slightly desperate to know what happens at the stately home next week (and did we get a bit of a teaser that perhaps Charles might pop by in his helicopter....?!)

Couldn't stand the plummy woman who acts as Charles's mouthpiece though..... (gag)

I want that girls Eugenie's haircut, but I'm guessing that comment isn't highbrow enough for this conversation.

No, I agree Bonjour. She is so pretty she should have just sat on the island spouting all her bizarre artistic strangeness and her hair alone would have been art.

I want to look like her.

Perhaps she can get away with so much is because of her adorable elfin face.