Waking the Dead

[OrmIrian]

There were some things I didn't understand - not helped by going out to the kitchen during whatsisnames 'confession' to Eve.

1. If the investigation was tainted by Eve's association with the chap, why could another force not have gone ahead with it.
2. If those blokes who shot him knew the investigation was tainted why did they have to shoot him? Presumably they were safe.
3. Why did Eve wade out into the water and make him follow her - just for nastiness sake?
4. If he hadn't tempted Eve to start the investigation they wouldn't have found out about all this anyway so it's a bit daft to get all hoity about him for ballsing it up.
5. Why was it OK to 'execute' Stephane (orwhatever his name was??) but leave the other nasty bit of work alone.

I always thought of Boyd's team as unorthodox but ultimately the good guys. Was quite taken aback last night.

It really annoyed me that Boyd being investigated last week was totally ignored this week.

I wondered whether I'd missed something (I only went to the loo but maybe the whole thing hinged on that 1 minute...), now I realise it was the programme and not just me.

So last week Boyd is suspended and told to stop investigating anything, one of his team gives away a suspect's identity, suspect gets killed (??) and then this week they're free to investigate a boyfriend of one of the team - no questions asked?

And with all the dead bodies piling up no-one else wants to have another look at their investigation.

I was really hoping that at some point some of these things would be resolved but I fear they never will.

So glad I wasn't the only one confused and let down by last night's episode. This series has been really top stuff so far, but really lost the plot last night, literally. WTF were they doing letting the other guys go? They can always find forensic proof when they need it, so why not now? And as for the bit when Boyd lit the fag and set off the sprinkler system, it was way over the top ...

I don't know about jumping the shark, but the producer definitely took his eye off the ball and the script editor must have been pissed or on holiday.

Just watched this on iPlayer and am somewhat bewildered.

It's like we've jumped forward a few years and the suspension thing (and poor old thrombotic Stella - what an ignominious end!) is forgotten.

I have rationalised it thus:

• literally: Eve went into the water because she felt "safe" there and Stefan would not be able to reach her; it is not really her "fault" if he chooses to pursue her into it, if you think about it.

• metaphorically: Eve, who was tempted (geddit? ), goes into the water as an act of purification.

Anyway - I reckon that the point is, Stefan was going to get off scot-free because it was the evidence surrounding him which was tainted; Devlin and Victor - I am guessing - know that their time is up, and that the police are coming for them; however, Boyd, knowing that he can now no longer pursue Stefan, allows them to do his dirty work (and get their revenge for being dumped in it by Stefan) and execute him, knowing that the police (presumably all those involved in the investigation of the "farm") will pick up Devlin and Victor.

That's how I'm figuring it anyhow!

I think you are being too kind to the writers, Pen!

I thought it was fair enough for the whole suspension thing to be dropped, though -- don't most plot elements get re-set to zero with the beginning of each new two-parter? Otherwise he would surely have been sacked and banged up three series ago. Anyway, with all of us striving with a massive suspension of disbelief, there isn't enough suspension left to suspend Boyd with.

What doesn't get re-set, though, is his ongoing grief at colleagues/sons dying due to his rampaging failures. So it is a bit odd that poor old thrombotic Stella () is just dumped.

I only managed to watch it off iplayer last night - this is the first time I've thought about turning WTD off in the middle of watching it - I thought the whole 2 parter was total and utter drivel (albeit very gruesome and disturbing - the poor man with his eyes sewn shut is still haunting me), and I hope that they don't let the same writer/director near it again.....

I'm hoping that next week the series gets to redeem itself!

The thing is if they'd just left Stefan in the water he'd have drowned pretty soon anyway, so they save him from drowning and then leave him to be shot (maybe poetic justice for Helena?).

Yet another thing I don't get is why they needed Georg to volounteer. He wanted £10,000 for a kidney, so they could have had that and let him go, if he was going to be tied up and kept (until someone needed a heart or liver??) then why not just kidnap someone off the street. Why do you need a willing participant if you're just going to do that anyway.

Also when Eve was on the operating table Stefan was about to cut into her chest, presumably going for the heart. They hadn't tested her to see who she could donate to so what the hell would they do with a spare heart?

And who was putting these organs back into the donors? You might be able to cut out a heart in an abandoned hospital but you need a heart bypass machine, proper anaesthatists and all sorts to put it back in.

I keep wanting someone to come up with answers but maybe I just need to accept it was a badly written plot, full of terrible holes...

Yes, there were more holes in the plot than there were in the organ-trade victims.

Perhaps the whole thing was cobbled together from plot-parts hacked from other dramas, in manner of Frankenstein.

the bloke with his eyes sewn shut was vile.... I watched it at 2am last night and was nearly sick

It's the closest I've come to seeing a horror movie!

I am new to waking the dead so don't know what has happened before but I am liking it.....i do like horror though

sorry