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the END of series TWO of mad men BBC4

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BernardsCat · 11/05/2009 18:24

god it was so gripping. I was thinking in the bath about Peggy and pete. If htey had been a couple, woudl peggy have made him less vile? was he only vile becuase of his mother and dislike of his wife?

Wil Don change his ways?
I am convinced that Peggy will become an arch feminist in the late 60s.

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MyEye · 11/05/2009 18:33

Sorry can't contribute. I had watched 3 episodes and recorded the rest to watch at my leisure -- and then somehow I managed to wipe the hard disc clean. (DH chortling, rubbing hands and saying, "Thank God you did that, rather than me." Nice.)
The box set doesn't come out till July.
[gloomy/self-loathing]

ahundredtimes · 11/05/2009 18:36

No he's just vile I think isn't he. Well not vile, just venal. He married because it was convention to marry, I don't think it reflects on him as a person - except that it was dishonest and he doesn't love his wife, and doesn't think things through.

Don will change his ways. Betty will find new ways. Will be interesting.

I LOVE Peggy so much. I can't move for love of Peggy, and I've always liked her. She won't be an arch feminist, she won't be radical. She will be sussed and ambitious and never marry, that will be the price she will pay for her success. She will have cats instead. And lovers.

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BernardsCat · 11/05/2009 18:51

peggy is SO SO wise

does the priest love her?

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BernardsCat · 11/05/2009 18:52

oh sorry i meant BETTY will bceome feminist

the HBO website has lots of interesting short films about MM on it

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southeastastra · 11/05/2009 18:52

no pete is a shite, remember how he snitched on don

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BernardsCat · 11/05/2009 18:53

oh yes
but he has moments of vulnerability

when you read thenotes on an emergency poem it all makes sense btw

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policywonk · 11/05/2009 18:55

Ah, but he also tipped Don off this time, didn't he?

I loved that bit in the boardroom - 'He doesn't have a contract?' 'We're close, we didn't think we needed one'

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BernardsCat · 11/05/2009 18:55

meditations even
www.poetryfoundation.org/archive/poem.html?id=15741

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policywonk · 11/05/2009 18:56

I mus say I have no idea WHAT Don will do. I find that character completely unreadable.

policywonk · 11/05/2009 18:58

Now, that seems very much like utterly unreadable rubbish to me. But then I hate poetry.

procrastinatingparent · 11/05/2009 18:58

I'm not sure Don is capable of changing his ways, sadly.

What I did love was seeing how utterly relaxed he was in Anna's company - she knew who he really was, and suddenly he looked nothing like the striving uncomfortable man he was everywhere else. And when he told her about having met Betty and looked so soppy, so unlike himself. I found all that really moving, and I have felt so ambivalent about him all the way through.

southeastastra · 11/05/2009 19:04

ah yes, and how he was excited over the hot rods. what will i do tuesdays now.

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BernardsCat · 11/05/2009 19:08

Yes.
i kept it on sky plus for a night in ALONE

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ahundredtimes · 11/05/2009 19:12

I've been waiting to Betty to wake up and smell the coffee and burn her bra from about the second episode of series one. But she's gone all weird and powerful and excited and repulsed by sex.

I'm quite pleased she's not going to be a doll anymore. But bad luck on her being pregnant, no? She'd have moved on and out of that marriage otherwise.

Yes the vicar is in love with Peggy, but he doesn't quite know it. Of course.

I'm worried about Joanie.

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BernardsCat · 11/05/2009 19:13

I am too
married to the ripper.

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policywonk · 11/05/2009 19:15

I didn't get the bit about Betty bleeding. Why does bleeding = pregnancy?

It made a change from a female character feeling a bit sick as a pregnancy signifier, mind.

Yes, I'm frustrated that she's staying with Don. I wanted her to move up and on.

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BernardsCat · 11/05/2009 19:18

breakthrough.

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PatTheHammer · 11/05/2009 19:19

Bloody brilliant! That scene with Peggy and Pete almost made me feel sorry for Pete, and he's such a twat!

Also really worried about Joan, she's ace.

Betty was always a bit weird about sex, remember the washing machine?

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BernardsCat · 11/05/2009 19:21

I liked the judgement day feel to it all too as an extension of last weeks religious thing.

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ahundredtimes · 11/05/2009 19:23

Not to mention the weirdy weirdy relationship with the adolescent boy in the neighbourhood. Now that is very strange.

Yes, it's sad because perhaps Betty might have freed herself. Now she's in there, she'll get odder and crosser and more and more perverse. In a good but rather odd way.

ahundredtimes · 11/05/2009 19:36

Actually I think we might need to discuss Betty's relationship with the staring boy. What is all that about?

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BernardsCat · 11/05/2009 20:28

i dont know.
will google.e

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ahundredtimes · 11/05/2009 21:15

Noooo, don't google it you mad person.

We must discuss it. I have opinions on this, I want to know what everyone else thinks. We can and will think for ourselves here.

policywonk · 11/05/2009 22:33

It will not surprise you at all that I have no freaking idea what's going on with that frankly unappealing boy. I would like you to tell me your theory.

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BernardsCat · 12/05/2009 10:37

er googling so far suggest Glen is a minature Don - abandoned mother etc

adn that betty only feels in control over him

adn the kid is played by the writers SON!

freka out

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