Another Tudors Whinge Thread

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Anne Boleyn may not have had blue eyes but I would bet my last pack of malteasers that Jane Seymour didn't walk like a builder either.

Sorry but everytime the actress moved I giggled, they may have got the "pretty" right but seriously I've seen more elegant chimpanzees.

I think there was definitely a "suggestion".

Yes I liked the mad hair brushing scene as well! She just needed rollers and slippers to complete the look of nagging housewife.

Think Anne will get the chop this week then?

This week or next, yes!

Next week it is then - how many episodes are left in this series, anyone know?

poor blokes! Not exactly safe convictions

last episode next week. Ending with Anne's beheading and marriage to the drippy Jane I would imagine.

Oooh, I did the Anne Boyleyn walk by the bus stop yesterday. A path was cleared through the shcool kids. It was great! gwan, try the walk, just for me.

Yep she is surely in for the chop!

Dumbledore - glad it's not just me that had a thing for Thomas More... but not Thomas Cromwell I'm afraid!

Charles is rather tasty too

I would be very regal doing the walk. I am convinced I am of royal descent and really should have servants and lovely coiffed hair

I think I must have led a sheltered life, but I found that some of the most brutal TV I've seen in a long time. Especially poor old Mark on the rack - just horrid. And all those men getting the chop one after the other - I didn't stop to think about that enough when I went to the Tower of London I don't think. I'm glad I live here and now and not 500 years ago that's for sure!

Ewww it was horrible! Does that mean they're devoting an entire episode to Anne being executed?

I think they'll devote most to Anne's execution and the end to Henry marrying Jane.

According to the biography of Anne I just read, she swung between being in fairly good spirits whilst in the tower to being inconsolable which is understandable really. Supposedly towards the end she was more concerned that her brother had left behind big debts and obviously concerned for Elizabeth's future.

And apparently she was joking about having a little neck

I think she was definitely the most interesting of all of his wives.

I agree LaVie she's my favourite of the wives. I'll keep watching any future series as long as the keep the lovely Charles Brandon in it though

LaVie, or anyone else who knows the Tudor period well, (I have always hated it for just the reason we saw last night on tv) what happens to Charles in the end? I keep waiting for him to fall from favour and for his beautiful neck to end up on the block.

Not sure DumbledoresGirl but I bet Expat does. She seems to be an authority on anything Tudor!

Apparently (just googled it!) Charles dies of natural causes aged 60 after marrying a 14 year old. nice.

LOL, that puts him in a different light, doesn't it?

But glad to know he doesn't fall out with Henry.

I am a bit about the portrayal of William Brereton in this series, as a nutter Jesuit who pleaded guilty to the charge of adultery as a means of killing Anne. Actually he was a married man who, like the others, pleaded not guilty. Only Mark Smeaton "confessed" and as shown, he was tortured.

Also, did I blink but was there no mention in the series of Francis Weston, who was also executed?

There is easily an episode worth of Anne's execution contemporary accounts of her trial are amazing, what a brain that woman must have had and it's a shame the trial was not shown), not least the fact that as her marriage was annulled prior to her execution (to make Elizabeth illegitimate and clear the decks for Jane's children, in case she also had a girl), if the marriage was not valid, she could not have committed adultery, and therefore was not guilty of treason, only "fornication". This thorny legal issue was solved by chopping her head off anyway, and threatening anyone who pondered the problem too loudly.

Yes georgimama! they completely overlooked Anne's trial and the fact that if she wasn't married then she couldn't have committed adultery. Grrrrr. What Henry wanted Henry got it seems.

Yes georgimama! they completely overlooked Anne's trial and the fact that if she wasn't married then she couldn't have committed adultery. Grrrrr. What Henry wanted Henry got it seems.

I have an almighty intellectual crush on Anne Boleyn, she (and her daughter) are my most favourite historical figures, so fascinating.

A couple of years ago some art historians were examining some of Elizabeth I's jewels and found that a ring she often wore (it is in several portraits) was in fact a locket - no one had ever realised it opened before - and inside was a portrait of her mother. Very sad.

There is a picture of that ring in "The Life and Death of Anne Boleyn" (I did the link earlier)

I think she was very proud of her mother. And she was certainly her mother's daughter! Not sure how she felt about her father although she gave him a lot of gifts whilst he was alive. Not sure if this was expected of her or if she had genuine affection for him.

That's a fab fact about Elizabeth (her ring/locket), I never knew that!