Eastenders Whitney and Tony

[LaylaandSethsmum]

OK they are having it off from what I can gather but what is their relationship? She isn't Bianca's daughter is she?

To be honest I was more disturbed by Pat's unhealthy interest in Bianca's sex life - bleurgh!!!

So where did Whitney come from?? I thought Tony was her RL life Dad .How did she end up with Bianca .
I also thought Pat was been a bit too interested in their sex life.

Note to self [tis not real life]

Whitney is Bianca's step-daughter. Whitney's real dad died. Whitney is no blood relation to Tony.

Thankyou wotulookinat . Don't know how I had got it into my head that he was her rl dad.

It's a bit confusing as Bianca appears to have been with at least 2,000 men (and had long-term, meaningful, child-bearing relationships with most of them) since she split up with Ricky. And yet he still wants her...

didnt bianca have an affair with someone her mum was seeing?

i dont really watch telly now, but i am sure i remember a storyline about that

Yes she did her mum was seeing Dan and Bianca was having an affair with him .

Ah I guess it's justice then!!!!!

Did anyone else think it was odd when Lucy Beale was all like 'don't be silly dad, there wouldn't be a gun in the Square' when Ian said he saw Max and Phil with a gun, when she not so long ago had a gun in that very bedroom?

Cos I once nearly ended up writing on one of these teams.

I just watched last nights episode. I think it's a very important storyline. To me it's clearly apparent that he is an abuser/paedophile and they are not just having an 'affair'.

It is deeply uncomfortable to watch. I would be very surprised if anyone found it titilating in in least.

i found it uncomfortable but same as many storylines.my dc do not watch it so am not worried about time its on.

It's definitely uncomfortable watching, but apparently the EE team have written this with full input from the NSPCC to make it as 'real' as possible. Maybe as it plays out it will seem less like titillation and a lot more sinister. Personally am not titillated one tiny bit, as I'm sure none of you are.

If it makes one young lady realise that the 'relationship' she is having with an older man is wrong, then it is worth it.

totally argee-wotulookinat

I agree too. I think part of the reason they run shocking storylines is to raise awareness.

I also think that if you aren't prepared to talk to your children about adult issues, then you shouldn't be letting them watch programmes like eastenders.

ooh agree with that too meemar

Me too
My brother and I weren't allowed to watch Grange Hill, let along EastEnders, when we were of primary school age.

MT

Eastenders writers' appear to have put a lot of thought into the accuracy of what they're portraying, according to this story in the Guardian, including incorporating changes that NSPCC advisers felt were important.

a lot of accuracy except in what a paedophile actually is...I read the stort in teh Guardian and just thought it was moronic how they didn't have to courage fo their convictions. It's titilation not awareness raising - and especially as it's factually incorrect in the central concept.

The NSPCC would be organised cos it's better to be than not - they were consultants not writers and the little factual stuff they could get in the better but eastenders is about entertainment not charity work

still disagree with you mt re: him not being a paedophile. what age would you have preferred to have been depicted being abused?

of course ee is about entertainment but applaud the fact that they've tried to get it right. and it's timely, considering the story in the press yesterday about the pilot study re: single parents being able to vet any prospective partners.

According to Levin and Stava (1987),

"Pedophilic behavior is any sexual contact, forced or non-forced, between an adult and a minor"

and they regard child molestation as a synonym for paedophilia.

The term "child molester" is more usually regarded as a generic term for all who offend against underage persons:

"Child molestation is defined as any sexual contact between an offender and a victim who, due to age and/or immaturity, is incapable either legally or realistically (because of lack of a true appreciation of the significance or consequence of the act of
giving consent. The specific sexual acts may range from mutual touching and fondling to actual intercourse, but access to the victim is achieved through pressure, coercion, or deception."
(Hobson, Roland and Jamieson, 1985, p. 104)

Pedophilia, paedophilia or pædophilia (see spelling differences) is the paraphilia of being sexually attracted primarily or exclusively to prepubescent or peripubescent children. Persons with this attraction are called paedophiles.

In contrast to the generally accepted medical definition, the term paedophile is also used colloquially to denote significantly older adults who are sexually attracted to adolescents below the local age of consent, as well as those who have sexually abused a child.

I still can't see how it's titilation, just because Whitney is a teenager. There is a very disturbing undertone to the story and it makes uncomfortable viewing. The way it is written makes it apparant that Tony is abusing his position of trust as her guardian and manipulating her.

I cannot imagine how anyone could be titilated by that.

There was a big article on the Guardian about this storyline on Saturday I think (or was it the Obs on Sunday?).

To be honest, I think soap operas are shite at portraying this sort of thing in a sensitive way. The shot of him last night snogging Bianca while looking at photo of Whitney as a child over her shoulder was just crass.

MT still waiting to her re: the age that makes it paedophilia, proper

I thought that it was very unlikely that a man attracted to a prepubescent 12 year old would continue with the attraction once puberty had set in.

To put it bluntly I was under the impression that once a girls body had curves/hair etc this sort of perv was no longer interested. I didin't think they just moved thru the time line. The story line seems to merge two types of abuse and is confusing.