Can we have a "OMG, just how BAD is The Tudors" thread please?

[beansprout]

Pretty please?

Are we saying that noone in tudor times was treated to a little wank?

well, when henry finally fell out with anne, he is recorded in history as saying she had been 'corrupted in france' (she was brought up in the french court).

they probably taught her all kinds of naughty things, handjobs included!

i doubt just a jerk off would have satisfied him. he had plenty of mistresses to offer the real thing.

I can't believe he actually had her executed though. What a tosser. Did any other monarch do away with their wives like that?

after he had katherine howard chopped, women were understandably afraid when he turned his attentions to them.

the evidence is pretty substantial that anne was never unfaithful to him, she appears to have been far too shrewd to have been (unlike poor katherine howard, who was much younger than anne, poorly educated (almost illiterate) and brought up with very little guidance that would have given her much good sense or judgement).

you have to remember, too, that she was never very popular among the public or among the rest of henry's court and did little to endear herself to either as time went on.

after he had katherine howard chopped, women were understandably afraid when he turned his attentions to them.

the evidence is pretty substantial that anne was never unfaithful to him, she appears to have been far too shrewd to have been (unlike poor katherine howard, who was much younger than anne, poorly educated (almost illiterate) and brought up with very little guidance that would have given her much good sense or judgement).

you have to remember, too, that she was never very popular among the public or among the rest of henry's court and did little to endear herself to either as time went on.

I read somewhere that katherine howard broke down on the platform when she was chopped. poor girl.

see what expat's learned off the telly, everyone? i bet beansprout is wishing she'd not bothered posting now...

it all started when i went to some poncy g&t school and they forced us to learn Latin .

the tudors is repeated, isn't it? i enjoy it, i must say... can't wait to see the royal wankathon.

Sometimes though even if you are the king of England you don't want a full on shagathon and a quick handjob is what is needed. I have always wondered what Anne had learnt in France that fuelled her performance in the bedroom that Henry clearly loved at the time.

no, she didn't break down. at least, that's not how history recorded it.

one of her ladies went totally mental, however, to the point where henry had to get special permission to have her whacked because she was rended a bit insane but it all.

katherine did ask for hte block to be brought to her room the night before her execution, so she could practice laying her head on it.

the worst excution by far, however, as that of the countess of salisbury, whose son, then living in exile in france, REALLY pissed off henry.

she moved and the ax missed and basically she was sort of hacked to death.

anne at least had the benefit of a swordsman from France, although he was delayed en route to London and she had to wait an extra day to have her head chopped off.

being in france, she probably learned how to give a blowjob and take it up the arse.

I thought it may be those two particular skills.

Muchos Respectos to Expat the magnificent. That is some grasp of history!

Anyone who wants to read an easy story of all the wives and how the copped or not I loved this book well written and has all the stuff I wanted to know!

Agree with expat Henry was hugely well educated and an able theologian in his own right. The Henry here comes across as a pouting dummy. And not nearly as charming and clever as Henry seems to have been. I think Richard Burton was nearer my idea of Henry!

Found this website with Henry's wives last letters to him, they all forgave him it seems.... here

Oh Lordy, check out the US advert for the Tudors! very funny here

Jonathan Rhys Wotsisface is like a poor-mans Joaquin Phoenix. I know who I'd rather do watch. It's toe-curlingly awful.

I love Joaquin.
He's a proper actor, not a poutmunchthesp like RhysM

Something has been puzzling me since I started watching The Tudors. It's a not very well known fact that Catherine of Aragon lived in what is now Birmingham (I think it was probably just outside Birmingham in those days). The area she lived in is still there, it's near where I went to school and we were taken up there quite often. On the parish church there is an unused door called "Catherine of Aragon's door" it hasn't been opened since she died. It is decorated with symbols of the Tudors and of her family.

What I'm puzzled about is that it's a CoE church.

I can believe that Anne Boleyn was faithful to him, especially considering she made him wait. That's not the actions of someone who is going to cheat.

The Too-ders!

He wasn't the only Tudor, either. He had two sisters who survived to maturity, one of whom who married the King of Scotland. He didn't get on as well with her as he did with the younger one, who had a very interesting life indeed.

I mean, why not start with his miserly father and his put-upon mother and her MIL from hell?

expat, maybe i'm wrong, but was henry also known as 'good king hal'? or is that a shakesperian take?

i'm looking forward to the programmes that deal with anne of cleves, she managed to negotiate her own divorce settlement, and actually come out of a very dangerous situation (re henrys ability to 'off' any wife he tired of) with a house, staff, and income in a time when she would generally be looked upon as a chattel.

not sure about all that 'hal' stuff or when it came about.

anne of cleves also successfully avoided being sent back to her male relatives. her brother was a tyrant from hell.

needless to say, she never felt any desire to marry again.

i have always thought catherine parr must have had hidden depths, she managed to keep a grotty, smelly old tyrant happy until his death and then still have the courage to go against the social mores of the time and remarry, must have been quite brave i should think.

she was also able to keep her reputation despite the fact that henry started courting her whilst her second husband was still alive, albeit dying.

she was married to her first husband when she was about 14 and he was 62! yuk!

I think by the time C Parr was his wife, Hezza was too feeble, gout and syphilis ridden to bother her much.