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Say Nothing - new drama series starts tonight on C4 1st Dec @ 9pm

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IwantToRetire · 01/12/2025 17:09

Starring Lola Petticrew, recently in Trespasses, this is also set during the Troubles in NI, but more a crime, political series.

Haven't seen any reviews so have no idea whether it is worth watching or not!

https://www.channel4.com/programmes/say-nothing

Say Nothing - new drama series starts tonight on C4 1st Dec @ 9pm
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IwantToRetire · 03/12/2025 18:50

Sadly this is not available on iPlayer at the moment but I remember being really moved by it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03hcfdm

BBC Four - Storyville, The Disappeared

Darragh MacIntyre recounts how people were killed and secretly buried by the IRA.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03hcfdm

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Gloriia · 03/12/2025 19:01

'Although to understand history you have to acknowledge that people's view of life will be different to yours because of their experiences'

Yes obviously there were different viewpoints in Northern Ireland gang warfare but the first episode did seem a bit of an ira hero worship thing hence I switched off.

I was wondering for those who watched more if it continues in this bias or does it shows more, both the 'prods' and the Catholics?

Soonenough · 03/12/2025 19:07

IRA hero worship ?. The first 5 minutes showed the thugs dragging a women out of her bath in front of her children . Hardly glamourising the IRA.

SwedishEdith · 03/12/2025 19:17

The casting of the Gerry Adams character is brilliant as a young lookalike.

SwedishEdith · 03/12/2025 19:40

This was one of the best series about Northern Ireland.

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0ff7cpp
Once Upon a Time in Northern Ireland, Series 1: 1. It Wasn’t Like a Movie Anymore: www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0ff7cpp via @bbciplayer

Gloriia · 03/12/2025 20:06

Soonenough · 03/12/2025 19:07

IRA hero worship ?. The first 5 minutes showed the thugs dragging a women out of her bath in front of her children . Hardly glamourising the IRA.

It very quickly moved on to the odd family with their injured aunt and activist daughters, as if it was all a bit of a joke. Maybe you need to watch them all to get the gist?

Does it continue in the 'ah Gerry Adams wasn't all bad' style? Actually nevermind I'm not interested it just got good reviews.

Soonenough · 03/12/2025 21:23

@Gloriia But the journalist ( I assume these are the Boston tapes) keeps bringing up the subject of Jean McConville when they are talking and it is obviously an uncomfortable reminder of what evil they were also involved in. Well that's my impression of it . Which is a sign of a good drama as it raises all sorts of different questions and issues .

purpleme12 · 04/12/2025 18:17

I'm on episode 3
Really hard watch, those scenes where they basically torture Gerry Adams
How did the sisters know that the interrogators were going to drive Gerry to the middle of nowhere and know to get there to get him?

SallyDraperGetInHere · 04/12/2025 18:24

There is a full story arc over the eight episodes as the two sisters get older and disillusioned. I’ve watched it twice and read the book. It rings very true to me, as someone who grew up just south of the border during the Troubles.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 05/12/2025 14:17

As a PP said, I, Dolours on Prime is definitely worth a watch.

lickingfingertastingfood · 15/12/2025 17:27

I'm watching this and after 1 and 2 I wasn't sure but have continued and am so glad I did. It's made me research more of this time period. It shows what a goddam mess it all was with Gerry Adams denying he was ever involved with the IRA when so many ordinary people suffered because of it. The poor ordinary people used as cannon fodder as is often the case.

purpleme12 · 18/12/2025 23:41

Wow that was really good series

Hard watch at times. Like the force feeding!!

I know very little about the Troubles honestly.

I didn't even know this was a true story till at the end when I googled after the show.

I'm really glad I watched it

lickingfingertastingfood · 19/12/2025 11:16

Now that I'm finished this - yes it was such a good production showing the sadness of life for so many in NI and the selfishness of men who seek power.

LambriniBobInIsleworthISeesYa · 07/01/2026 16:14

SwedishEdith · 03/12/2025 19:40

This was one of the best series about Northern Ireland.

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0ff7cpp
Once Upon a Time in Northern Ireland, Series 1: 1. It Wasn’t Like a Movie Anymore: www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0ff7cpp via @bbciplayer

Late to this party but have just rewatched this series after first watching it when it came out on Disney+. I have also read the book and read it after watching this peerless BBC documentary.

I'm English with no Irish heritage of note so have no skin in the game- Protestant English (and a bit of Scottish) on one side and Middle Eastern Jewish with a smattering of Welsh Presbyterian on the other- but I came away from that documentary incredulous that the history I had been taught and the news I’d absorbed as a child and adolescent in the 80s and 90s living in England was that the IRA were the bad ones.

I know that they were killing people. I know that there were bombs and guns. But the British were killing people and using some pretty shitty tactics too- it’s not like we were innocent victims… that was their Ireland and from the 16th century onwards we made it our business to be where we had no business being! The “Troubles” weren’t trouble… it was a fucking war! A fucking war that we wouldn’t call a war because it would have given the other side some legitimacy!

And that’s another thing- language. Our language around this war was fucked, but that’s hardly a shock is it, we’ve had a problem with language over there for hundreds of years. See Trespasses by Louise Kennedy or Translations by Brian Friel.

That BBC documentary got me started reading about it all and I thought that Say Nothing was an amazing book and amazing TV series. I don’t think it glamourised anything. I also don’t think it is the last word in anything- I’ve since becoming interested in all of this read and watched a lot of stuff from the POV of both sides and always come out thinking that the English kind of had what was coming to them, but really no one won… it’s all been bad. And then Brexit has made things harder again, why? Because the English learnt nothing from that 30-odd year war and thought we could run roughshod over that border.

Lottapianos · 07/01/2026 16:29

'It rings very true to me, as someone who grew up just south of the border during the Troubles'

Exactly the same here ❤️ I remember soldiers with rifles stopping our family car whenever we crossed the border when I was a kid. We knew it was serious stuff but it was also 'normal'

I didn't enjoy the cartoony larky tone at the start of episode 2 (bank heist dressed as nuns) but overall I thought it was a great series. Both actors playing Gerry Adams (younger and older) were brilliant. Maxine Peake had a good go at the accent but there was still quite a lot of Bolton in there!

I loved Lola Petticrew in Trespasses recently. Shes a real star, such a charismatic actor

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