Sex & the city

[LilyAnn13]

Is there anything about SATC that irritates you?
For me, it's how patronising Carrie can be. E.g. when she kept on telling Burger how good his book was and what a great writer he was, after he lost a book deal.
Shut up Carrie! You're only making it worse!! 🙀

Worst boyfriend - Berger. Just awful, wet and overly complicated
Best character - SATC Miranda, not the awful AJLT version
Sexiest boyfriend - Robert (Miranda)

Favourite episode - Season 4 Episode 6 - Scene where Aidan throws stones at Carrie's window and she flies/floats down the stairs towards him. It's perfect, the music, the lighting....everything.

Yeah and there’s a scene where she goes to an event with Berger (I think maybe Smith’s play) and the photographers call her name because they want a picture, and she turns to Berger and says something like “I used to be a party girl”. So you’re told the paparazzi know who she is.

I completely agree with you but Smith comes a close second. He was very mature for someone so young (and hot).
Anthony is hilarious and Stanford is great. Trying to remember the online chat name of his hookup...

Stanford: "Bigtoolforyou?"
Hookup: "What?"
Stanford: " Another drink for you?"

God, I loved it then and I love it now.

And she was on the cover of New York Magazine ("Single and fabulous?"), and she was in that big charity fashion show where she fell over.

And the bride special she did for Vogue, wearing all the dresses.

Big was gross. Nothing to look at and treated Carrie like shit.

Berger was a whiney, sulky wet wipe.

Aiden was slightly better to look at than Big but also a wet wipe.

Smith was the hottest in my humble opinion. Oh and the ‘new Yankee’ Carrie dated was fit too.

Ben was the nicest guy Carrie dated (in season two - ‘Freak Show’). He was also hot. But she messed it up when he caught her going through some of his belongings.

Whether they were early 30s, mid 30s or late 30s and whether that's normal for New York professional women, in my opinion they were immature. It's not as though they were living decidedly childfree either because Carrie later on has a casual conversation with Big about whether they want kids or not when I think the character may have been around late 40s. Not realistic.

Totally realistic when you consider the number of celebrities who have either adopted or had a kid in their late 40s or 50s. This is a programme about the super-rich. I agree they're all a bit immature, though

I think Carrie could be annoying, but I like it even now as it's not about being perfect. I never really got why she liked Big so much even though he was a hot billionaire ... oh wait. I loved this show, and their friendship and the last two episodes showing how they evolved 👌

Agree, not at all unrealistic. SJP herself had twins by surrogate in her mid 40s. It’s practically the norm to have children in your mid/late 40s in super rich circles.

Just reading this gave me goosebumps. I loved this scene.

I am so glad you agree! It really is wonderfully done.

Dr Robert was great.
There was a sailor who invited Carrie to a party during Fleet Week. He was absolutely lovely. Beautiful manners.
Carrie was quite shallow about her men wasn’t she. Showing Petrovsky’s apartment off to the girls: ‘he has the whole floor’. ‘Can’t you feel jealous of me living in the gorgeous Penthouse’.

The sailor was looooovely! He’s also James Holt in The Devil Wears Prada (another of my NYC based comfort watches).

I also liked the bisexual guy Carrie dated (Sean), but Princess Carrie binned him off because she couldn’t cope with him being bi.

I thought this was a very honest and refreshing episode actually. Most heterosexual women do not want to date a guy who has sex with men, even in 2025. I can’t think of a single one of my female friends who would be comfortable with this (we’re millennials / same age as the characters then).

I couldn't cope with a guy being bi. So shoot me.

Also it’s almost 30 years old- I think a lot of the criticism aimed at the takes on sexuality and gender don’t take into account that it reflects the time. If anything, it was pretty progressive for mainstream TV - Ellen had only come out a few years prior and sadly it was a disaster.

Agreed. As I said in the other thread, people criticising SATC are doing so in a post-SATC world. They don't realise how groundbreaking it was.

I haven’t watched AJLT other than the odd clip on Facebook. I did like SATC and agree it was progressive and showed women in a different light but it doesn’t change the fact that Carrie was a terrible friend and person. There are too many occasions where she was a twat to list but one of the ones that is right up there for me was in the second film when she was horrible to Charlotte when she suggested it might not be the best idea to go meet Aiden. Something along the lines of ‘just because your marriage is shit it doesn’t mean mine is.’ Then she came back in later, demanding everyone’s attention and interrupting Miranda and Charlotte’s heart to heart because lo and behold she had kissed Aiden. Just ugh.

I always remember the episode of Family Guy where Peter Griffin takes the piss out of SATC calling it ‘three sluts and their mother.’ Not the nicest analysis but it did make me laugh.

They should have left it after the first film. The second film was woeful and killing Big off and making her doubt their entire relationship just makes a mockery of the whole history of the series.

Me too! Thanks for sharing this, I never realised the connection!

I agree it was groundbreaking at the time. We also had Ally McBeal and Bridget Jones. All innovative, but ultimately the women chasing a bloke was the main plot premise. Big, Billy and Darcy.

There's another thread about everything that has driven people nuts about the latest series.

Mostly it's Carrie...

I'd forgotten the gorgeous sailor! He was lovely.

Also, David Duchovney (sp?) as her high school boyfriend. Would have been a great partner for her but had his own issues to work out.

Yeah, I think MN would have been red flagging all over him 😆