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Call the midwife part 2

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TwinklyFawn · 24/01/2025 21:11

I know that my first thread isn't full yet. I just wanted to create the second thread before i forgot.

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TennisWithDeborah · 26/06/2025 19:12

I feel for the cast. Although the likes of Linda, Jenny and Georgie will always be in work, there are newish performers (Millicent’s grandson for example) that are not household names yet. Hopefully they’ll be ok.

Disappointed we won’t see the mid/late 1970s, when I was very young. My first memory was the hot summer of 1976 when I was 4. I was looking forward to having my memory jogged!

I am looking forward to the spinoff though.

Convolvulus · 27/06/2025 07:55

TennisWithDeborah · 26/06/2025 19:12

I feel for the cast. Although the likes of Linda, Jenny and Georgie will always be in work, there are newish performers (Millicent’s grandson for example) that are not household names yet. Hopefully they’ll be ok.

Disappointed we won’t see the mid/late 1970s, when I was very young. My first memory was the hot summer of 1976 when I was 4. I was looking forward to having my memory jogged!

I am looking forward to the spinoff though.

The BBC says they aren't cancelling. I must say, given their viewing figures I can't see any reason why they would.

C8H10N4O2 · 27/06/2025 14:17

GetDressedYouMerryGentlemen · 26/06/2025 10:48

Dr T was away at war. I know he has special powers but I don't think being in two places at once is among them.

I, too, would be happy to see a CTM without the tedious Turners. However McGann’s brother is a time lord - that might be all the excuse the script team need to keep him in and make it a cross over 😅

Latenightreader · 28/06/2025 22:20

We were wondering what Lucille's been up to - turns out she's in Manchester! I've just got back from the theatre and Leonie Elliott had a major role.

TwinklyFawn · 01/07/2025 16:04

C8H10N4O2 · 27/06/2025 14:17

I, too, would be happy to see a CTM without the tedious Turners. However McGann’s brother is a time lord - that might be all the excuse the script team need to keep him in and make it a cross over 😅

I bet that we will get something about the turners dealing with covid in the distant future. My guess is that one of the turner children will develop the covid vaccines. In the prequel i wonder if doctor Turner's breakdown will be covered.

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FreddoSwaggins · 02/07/2025 14:29

In 2020, if I've worrked it out right, Timothy would have been 75, Angela 61, May 59 and Edward 58.

So I go with Angela and May developing the COVID vaccine together. Edward a politician heading a successful government pandemic reaction; Timothy a retired doctor inspiring and advising them all.

Sheila would be 94 - so that would make a story about her isolating alone because; Patrick (now 101) was working 24/7in an intensive care unit. Maybe Shiela would lead the way in fundraising for something worthy (minus any scandal).

Marcipix · 07/07/2025 05:41

I only watch it for Sisters Julienne and MJ.

The Turners are ghastly and so is Chummy.

witchycat2 · 16/11/2025 10:23

I’m re-watching the series from the beginning. The earlier episodes were so much better, when they were following the books.

I’m going to bet the next series will end with the death of SMJ, which will make sense with them then doing the prequel the year after. I can’t see them returning to the 1970s again after that?

KuuLei · 20/11/2025 18:29

I know lots of people have started at S1 again and made the point about the quality drop off already, but I have to admit it’s stark.

The lines are less clunky in the earlier seasons but I actually don’t think that’s the main reason for the change in feel. One thing that stands out is the huge cinematographic shift - a lot of the shots in season 1 especially are actually remarkably beautiful in and of themselves. There’s a shot a few seconds long of Dr Turner and a father smoking outside in the garden in wait while the man’s wife is giving birth inside with a couple of the midwives. It genuinely had a touch of the Renaissance painting about it, a totally banal little scene but it was visually quite spectacular. Lots and lots of examples of things like that. They were much less in a hurry, happy to let a quiet unshowy shot unfold over 20, 30 or more seconds before cutting away. Even the really gut-wrenching scenes were so much more subtly done. I can’t imagine, for example, the “holy silence” scene where they all knit together while waiting for news of Chummy and the baby, or the scene where Jenny shows Mrs Jenkins where all her children are buried done under the current “style” of the show. All feels so much gaudier and soapier.

The other thing of course is that so many of the characters have been Flanderised. Worse overall with the men, I think. I was totally taken aback by the zero scenery chewing Dr Turner engaged in back in series one, it’s like a completely different character. What seems key is that the flaws that come across on screen now as both totally consuming of the character’s identity and unintentional are directly acknowledged as facets of the individual in the early serieses - it is literally
openly insinuated by other characters that Turner, while clearly a kind and principled man, is a bit pompous, childishly gung-ho about any medical breakthrough purporting to be world-changing, moralising and pleased with himself etc. I think part of why the romance is so much more compelling before Shelagh ditches the wimple and they marry is that they felt like real, imperfect people rather than horribly earnest mouthpieces for each episode’s Issue du jour. Similar for the other male characters - Fred is funny but has a wry quality that’s gone missing later on, he doesn’t just feel like he’s there for comic relief. Peter is suitably sweet and dutiful and adores Chummy etc but you see his little flashes of temper with her and general truculence. The camaraderie between Cynthia, Jenny, Trixie and Chummy feels so real - Trixie is another one whose character has lost dimension over time and, like Dr T, whose shortcomings now feel strangely accidental and unacknowledged.

The dialogue for/direction of the one off characters (the mothers, for example) has particularly suffered, I think. There are still lovely performances but I struggle to think of of a single mother that’s felt even even 30% as real as Lorraine Stanley’s Pearl in the very first (or maybe second?) episode. The moral of each thread of the story felt organic and incidental and now each episode feels like it was put together for the express purpose of making a particular moral point. Also not an original point on my part, but it’s really suffered for becoming less female-focused.

I still enjoy it a great deal but characters like Phyllis and Miss Higgins and Sister Julienne are very very load-bearing at this point.

REP22 · 21/11/2025 11:09

I agree with @KuuLei - I'm finding the later series not dissimilar to the current Channel 5 series of All Creatures Great and Small. Really quite saccharine, with no real 'grittiness' or accuracy to the times and places involved, with almost every story neatly tied up with laughter in the local square or round the table (although Samuel West as Siegfried does his best).

The Robert Hardy-era ACGAS dealt with hard-hitting animal issues and the grinding poverty of the times. Older and vulnerable clients having beloved pets put to sleep, the gritty realities of a rural vet's life in a harsh landscape, alongside the lighter elements, and truer to the original books and spirit of them. Sometimes there was no jolly laughter-filled ending to every tale and no respite for the bereaved.

Similarly with CtM - in the earlier series they were dealing with prostitution (the poor Irish girl who had her baby taken away and subsequently stole another), the isolation and despair of the elderly and vulnerable, severe neglect (the little lad who was caring for his younger sisters - they were subsequently "saved" by being deported to Australia, where the narrator says they were horrifically abused) - and the Thalidomide episodes... the girl Susan Mullucks being born without legs and the tiny baby that was basically just a head and segment of body which everyone thought was dead but which Sister J discovered to be still alive and prayed over will live long in my memory.

Both newer series do seem to be making a moral point against the barometer of 21st century viewpoints, despite being set in vastly different times based on books that are not always an entirely comfortable nor easy read, and all neatened up for a 55-minute little viewing package, all sorted at the end of the episode and everyone home in time for tea.

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