The Traitors #10 SEER you all at the finale #TeamAlexander

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The Traitors series 3 UK finale airs at 8:30pm on Friday 24th January, BBC1. Followed by a 45 minute episode of U cloaked.

Charlotte has a secret to reveal to Frankie... what will Frankie do with this information? Will she herself become collateral damage?

#TeamAlexander #JusticeForFreddie

@outofofficeagain It definitely was good game play as she achieved exactly what she set out to do, which was to get rid of Freddie. The ultimate aim of the game is to win the money. They have all been just a tap on the shoulder away from being a traitor, it's the game, who knows how "evil" our beloved Alexander would have been if he'd been chosen as a traitor! It's so nice when they give their exit speech and they tell the others they are all great people, they've had the time of their lives etc, reminds you it's just a game, none of them are "evil"!

I have been on all these threads from the start, reading along, and for the large part enjoyed them.

But I am bowing out now. The personal attacks on Charlotte (“every time I see her I want to neigh”, “if she wins she can buy shampoo”, “if she was a company director how could anyone trust her” to name but a few) are an embarrassment to MN. We are not mean girls. We are better than that.

She is a game show contestant playing a game. That’s all.
You are not privy to all knowledge she has whilst playing the game. We don’t how much she is steered. We have seen things she has not.
She is playing a game. You may not like how she plays the game. And that’s fine.
But the personal attacks are simply
not cool.

I don't agree. Yes she needed to get rid of Freddie but she gave him too much of a heads up. She could have done it in a way that wouldn't have meant he voted for her.

We also saw both Linda and Lisa mothering the young guy who was a care manager in the same way!

Yes and I was completely befuddled by Lisa telling Alex that she loved him too! It's just pure nuttiness to tell someone you've only known for two weeks that you love them. It makes me question their intelligence.

Of course it's intense and of course we don't see most of what actually goes on but I don't need to be reminded about that thank you to pp who told me "we need to remember ..."

If you can take against a person for being too prickly (Leanne) you can equally take against a person for being too gushy / sentimental.

I actually think Alexander wouldn’t have lasted long as a traitor, despite his capacity for critical thinking. I just don’t think that would have bested the mistrust caused by most of the others’ perception of his ‘poshness’. I think the understated kind of understanding between him and Francesca is at least in part down to them being the most obviously MC-presenting contestants.

That seer twist has completely ruined the show. Frankie and Charlotte will just argue saying each other are Traitors, the Faithful will have to banish both to be 100% sure, guaranteeing a Faithful win. It’s taken away any of the tension from the final. Jake and Leanne Will vote off Alexander to leave them the winners

I suppose there could be a double bluff There could be another twist that would see Charlotte given the opportunity to recruit Frankie as a Traitor and they team up. Frankie would tell the group Charlotte is a Faithful and vice versa and the group will probably believe her as these two have very little suspicion on them. Can’t see it happening though

It was Claudia. And I think they were remembering the dungeon episode from last year,

The Death Match is one of my bugbears with this season. All Minah and Linda were told was they had to choose four faithfuls. They weren’t given the option of choosing themselves. And then Claudia introduced the idea that there might be traitors among the Death Match survivors to the rest of the group. Just complete goalpost shifting and making up the rules as they go along on the part of the showrunners.

I think they were aiming for something as dramatic as Diane’s murder last year and it totally missed.

@BakedBeansforabrain
That is what I hope will happen.

I entirely agree with you. She’s simply playing a good game with the cards that have been handed to her, just as Minah did. And I for one applaud her decision to not wear visible makeup — it’s a sign of real confidence in her ability to dissimulation. If I were on a tv show where people were continually scrutinising my face for signs of discomfort/lying, I would be so caked in Estée Lauder Double Wear I would make Leanne’s face look like a ‘no make up’ look, because I am a blusher, like poor Alex.

All power to Charlotte and her literally bare-faced lying! (And I’m entirely charmed by evil that presents in pink dungarees and a daisy jumper!)

I agree @BakedBeansforabrain. Has it added anything? The only thing I can see is that it makes it more difficult for Charlotte to win, but that's not exactly fair.

I wouldn’t say logical or strategic thinking has been a strength this season.

The Death Match is one of my bugbears with this season. All Minah and Linda were told was they had to choose four faithfuls. They weren’t given the option of choosing themselves. And then Claudia introduced the idea that there might be traitors among the Death Match survivors to the rest of the group. Just complete goalpost shifting and making up the rules as they go along on the part of the showrunners.

^^ and I also agree with this. DH and I said to each other "Claudia's had to say that last minute bit to the Death Match players about the possibility of a traitor being among them because they've suddenly realised otherwise the 4 of them will know they are all faithful!". It was a totally make it up as you go along moment.

@TheNinthLock Thats terrible, must admit I haven't RTFT. It's a game show, no one should be picking on people's looks etc. All the people I've liaised with on here have been lovely, no nasty comments, even if we've had opposing views, it's just been great to have an adult discussion. How sad if some people have made nasty comments about a player's appearance, that's definitely not in the spirit of the game or of the thread for most people.

The Seer makes it harder for Charlotte to win, but why should she have an easy ride? The traitors have more power in the game as it is as they know who is who.

The seer gives just one faithful an opportunity to turn the game around, but they would still need to work hard to convince.others that the person the summoned is a traitor.

Frankie herself dismissed Charlotte as a traitor when it was brought up, so it will be interesting to see what her next move is.

Personally, I think the seer power has been wasted on her, but she could prove me wrong. I would have liked Leanne to have got it only to see her realise that she was wrong about Alexander all along. However, they would still not know who the traitor was and will likely vote Frankie out rather than Charlotte.

I think the producers have an agenda to engineer a faithful win as an antidote to last year's traitor win where the unsuspecting Mollie was hoodwinked.

Yes, I've frequently wondered how often Claudia has had some panicked message from the production team down an earpiece saying 'Eh, we've just spotted a total fuck up, and you're going to need to retrofit new rules for the Deathmatch!'

They are assuming a traitor is in the Death Match because Claudia put the idea into their heads. Then (and crucially) a traitor put themselves into the dungeon the previous year in one of the challenges. And, as we saw with Anna being convinced that it was a poisoned chalice that got her into the Death Match, they aren't considering things might be done differently this year.

We see similar with recruitment. They all think a recruitment took place the day Anna said no and Leanne was convinced she was the murder target but had a sheild. So one recruitment. They haven't considered that there might have been a recruitment and murder the same night.

Which is understandable as they don't have much to go one really, and what happened in previous year are staws to clutch to. Well, understandable of course unless you enjoy putting them down as "thick" just because they have access to less knowledge than us as viewers!!!

I’d be fascinated to learn more about the mechanics of it. You’d think they have game theory strategists scenario planning, but sometimes they do seem to miss an angle, eg the order which people come into breakfast oversight in season 1 (although it didn’t really matter as it was a new show).

it is as much the producers v the contestants as it is traitors v faithfuls.

A previous contestant said people walking into breakfast is filmed a couple of times and the whole scene is heavily edited.

I agree. I hoped he would follow Minah's example as she said that 'she was, and had been from the beginning, a traitor'.

He was obviously worried and upset that they would now think that all the times he swore that he was a faithful, he was actually a traitor.

I love that Freddie's friends believed that he could have a career as a MI5 agent 😆😆😆 Bless him.

Charlotte and her convoluted ditsy persona is grating on me but I guess that's how she's nearly at the end.

Well said @TheNinthLock. Agree, I think some of the discussions about Charlotte are personal attacks.

Personally I would love a faithful win but if Charlotte wins (unlikely now I think) fair play to her, she's played the game well.

BTW never mind Claudia's outfits, I love Frankie's style - the blue jumpsuit last night was gorgeous.

I know. But I’m sure I read somewhere that in the first season the producers didn’t realise until afterwards it could become an obvious tell.

I don't like Charlotte but I don't like some of the comments I've seen about things she can't control - and those comments have not been on MN. I've seen very mean comments on other sites about her teeth and features that make me feel uncomfortable. But people can control if their hair is clean.