Walter White is an awful person

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I'm on Season 2 of Breaking Bad. I haven't googled the programme at all, so was unaware that Skyler gets a lot of hate online (my daughter has just told me this). Well, what a surprise, the bar is set so much lower for a man!
He's greedy, selfish, unbelievably dishonest and cruel. He has just watched Jesse's girlfriend choke to death on her own vomit!
He deserves everything that is hopefully coming to him.
Team Skyler for me! And Walt Jnr/Flynn is adorable.

Thank goodness for the NHS there would have been no story. I don't know any teachers having to wash their students cars to make ends meet either.

@Twaddlepip

I'd take your ridiculous point if the show wasn't approximately 15 years old.
And why would you read this thread if you were spoiler avoidant anyway?! 😅

Obviously I was joking, it came out in 2008. It was supposed to poke gentle fun at the fact that the OP is watching something (admittedly a quality show) that’s pretty old. And posting about it.

On my second watch I was a lot more sympathetic to Skyler, but that Monroe impression is irredeemably cringe.

@Twaddlepip

Aah, I do apologise. I thought that maybe you were even later to the party than I was!

Absolutely, I really like him!

Great show! Better Call Saul is waiting in the wings, I enjoyed it even more than Breaking Bad.

Breaking Bad seasons 1-4 are absolute perfection. I hated season 5 though. They should have ended it with season 4.

I think Skyler gets hate for some of her behaviour in later seasons.

I’m another one who really enjoyed BB but couldn’t believe how much better (IMO) Better Call Saul was. It’s truly genius.
When a TV show has you thinking about it for ages and sparks a lot of conversation with your OH you know it’s good.

That's a turning point for sure that you're at OP. So much more to come. Lucky you!! Started it April 2012 and watched finale in real time.. such a build up at the time. I'll rewatch it all again some day.

I was always rooting for Jesse to get away from him, it was one hell of a toxic relationship. Felt so sorry for Walter's family too, they suffered so much totally unnecessarily. The show reminded me that you can't ever really trust or know anyone unless you've been through hard times with them, because it's fairly easy to be nice when things are going your way, but who knows what depravity lies beneath that veneer.

I didn’t, I loathed him by the end.

I had a love hate relationship with Walt because he did start off as a good man who got dealt shitty life cards and wanted to leave his family set up in a good place.....But what he was doing and how he did it was awful, which is the point of the show & is what keeps you watching see how his character develops and changes and the outcome of it all.What makes you want to keep rooting for Walt & Jesse is that the people they had to deal with as they went along were so much worse than they were so you wanted Walt & Jesse to come out on top.The same with Skyler, she made the best of what she was dealt, partly out of fear and partly out of greed , she was just as manipulative in her own way. I liked and disliked her too at various times throughout. I never liked Marie at all she was bossy, annoying and horrible , I couldn't stand her character at all!

@CottonCandyLand 100% agree.

Which Series starts each episode with flashbacks of Walt sitting by the pool? that was the best one imo. A shocker!

One of my favourite episodes was the flashback one of Hector and Gus Fring which had massive consequences for both of them. Absolutely loved Gus's character (even though he was a baddie).

Better Call Saul fleshes out the Salamanca-Fring dynamic perfectly. And introduces one of TVs most memorable baddies.

What did you make of Marie's kleptomania? Did that just further cement your dislike of her?

As many have said, it's the point of the series. Walter goes from being good to bad. He worries about how his family will survive when the cancer gets him, how he can provide for them after he's gone. You step through the journey with him from uninitiated naivety driven by necessity to a scheming villain. Once he embarks on his journey, each early step see's him unwittingly get deeper and deeper into a situation that is increasingly beyond his control. Then like a frog that slowly becomes use to warming water, you see him change as he adapts to the situation.

Yes because she refused to address it, yet expected everyone else to be squeaky clean

I actually feel sorry for Marie at the moment. Hank is home from hospital and is being impossible to live with. She is desperately sad and lonely, hence the Walter Mitty house viewings!

is it Marie, Hank's wife,
she is great

and marie always has purple around her

I also assumed that he wasn’t happy that he’d ‘only’ become a chemistry teacher and hadn’t used his apparent genius doing something more groundbreaking and lucrative so he goes a bit mad when given the power to do so. It’s a horribly tragic mid-life crisis.

I think he stayed a teacher by choice though as doesn't he have a friend that keeps trying to convince him to come work in pharma or something and put his knowledge to good use?

For me the whole point was to see how long and how much we would forgive him. Given the system etc
But by season 3 I was hating him.
Treatment of Jessie
His own ego
Why oh why didn't he just take the money from his ex colleagues.

He loves the power.
I adored BB
But absolutely watch better call Saul and also the movie that starts where bb ends with Jessie before that "el Camino"
Ties everything together
I envy you with it all
Ahead of you