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Call the midwife

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TwinklyFawn · 18/12/2024 18:26

The call the midwife christmas special is on bbc 1 in 2 parts. The first part will be shown on christmas day at 20:00. The second part will be shown at 19:30 on boxing day. Series 14 will start on 5th January. I am suprised that it has not been renamed as the doctor Turner show.

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AsWithGlad · 27/12/2024 23:44

I thought at one point there was something possibly unspoken between Sr J and someone else where they fully understood and accepted that Trixie’s brother was homosexual (as I think it would be called then) but it didn’t need mentioning.

The RC nuns at my school were still wearing full habits when I left in 1979, but it might have been different in different orders. I did hear that not long afterwards they were encouraged to get jobs outside and not just work in the school.

Zita60 · 28/12/2024 00:04

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 27/12/2024 12:19

It's too syrupy now.

It’s been pretty syrupy for several years, I think. Watching the first series now it’s quite striking what a difference there is - it had a much harder edge to it. They still tell some difficult stories but I wish they’d rein back the sentimentality.

Zita60 · 28/12/2024 00:22

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 26/12/2024 20:29

When the Vanessa Redgrave bit started my husband said 'I always like this bit' which worried me until he said '... because it means it's about to end'. Can't argue with him.

Do you ever listen to what she’s saying? I always find myself tuning out after the first few words. Whenever I do try and listen to it, it seems pointless.

MintSpiesAtTheReddy · 28/12/2024 00:25

In all honesty we never hear what she has to say because we all spontaneously start croaking out loud cheesy generic phrases to take the proverbial...

"Love enters the heart through the back door of the mind and it's only then that family is revealed". Or other such cod Grin

Aintnobodygottime · 28/12/2024 00:29

BESTAUNTB · 27/12/2024 22:57

Did the upper middle class (ie. the Franklin siblings’ class) bother with lavender marriages? I got the impression they did exactly as they pleased - because they could. Weren’t half of the Queen Mother’s mates unmarried gay men? She called them the old queen’s old queens.

Bisexuality exists. I’m of course talking about gay men not bisexual men, who tended to marry (back to the QM, her brother-in-law who married the pretty Greek woman was one such chap).

Perhaps he likes women too and the mardy nun is gonna ’ave it?

Yes, very much so. Being gay was not acceptable in polite society for a long time after legalisation. It was very common for gay men to marry, of all classes and backgrounds.

Toddlerteaplease · 28/12/2024 02:54

witchycat2 · 27/12/2024 19:36

To be honest I think they need to wrap up the series pretty soon. Were midwives still operating this way in the 1970s?

What I think would be good is a Call the Midwife prequel, with a young Sister Evangelina and Monica Joan in WW1/ 1920s. But I think they would need better writers and a return to its 'grittier' routes of season 1.

Can't see it happening though without Saint Turner, though perhaps he could pop up as a young child saving Poplar from Spanish Flu.

They should have wrapped it up about 3 series ago!

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 28/12/2024 06:27

Zita60 · 28/12/2024 00:22

Do you ever listen to what she’s saying? I always find myself tuning out after the first few words. Whenever I do try and listen to it, it seems pointless.

No! Nails on a blackboard for me. Like accidentally hearing Thought for the Day on Radio 4. @MintSpiesAtTheReddy has it spot on. Xmas Grin

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 28/12/2024 06:32

rainbowbee · 27/12/2024 21:44

Also Trixie's brother is very obviously queer-coded even if they haven't mentioned it yet. I think they're planning something with him and the nun who made eyes at him during the spinster comment. Possible lavender marriage or dramatic coming-out story? And why was she so put out about her mince pies not winning in the baking competition?

Inferiority complex?

Zita60 · 28/12/2024 06:42

MintSpiesAtTheReddy · 28/12/2024 00:25

In all honesty we never hear what she has to say because we all spontaneously start croaking out loud cheesy generic phrases to take the proverbial...

"Love enters the heart through the back door of the mind and it's only then that family is revealed". Or other such cod Grin

That could absolutely be one of hers!

Zita60 · 28/12/2024 06:44

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 28/12/2024 06:27

No! Nails on a blackboard for me. Like accidentally hearing Thought for the Day on Radio 4. @MintSpiesAtTheReddy has it spot on. Xmas Grin

Thought for the Day - yes, me too, especially Anne Atkins. I did used to make an exception for Rabbi Lionel Blue though.

Talesfromtheriverbank · 28/12/2024 06:45

I used to love the first couple of series but it’s really gone on too long now.

RampantIvy · 28/12/2024 07:39

Zita60 · 28/12/2024 00:04

It’s been pretty syrupy for several years, I think. Watching the first series now it’s quite striking what a difference there is - it had a much harder edge to it. They still tell some difficult stories but I wish they’d rein back the sentimentality.

The music doesn't help.

PrimalScreaming · 28/12/2024 10:58

@Xenia Thanks for clearing up the Down's Syndrome lexicon. I was wondering if using the term 'Down's Syndrome' was prevalent then. I was born in 1970 and can remember the term 'Mongol' still being used quite prevelantly. I'm sorry about your sister.

That's the thing with CtM... it likes to think of itself as gritty but it actually completely shies away from all the racism, ableism, homophobia etc that was so common in the 70s. If it's ever nodded to, then the culprit learns their lesson by the end of that episode!

As for Sister MJ... I actually find her story arc quite offensive. In the 13 years CtM has been going my Mum has gone from being fit and healthy (and used to watch it herself), to being diagnosed with Alzheimer's, to succumbing to all the awfulness that goes with the disease and finally passing away from it last year.

I think the whole thing has had its day!

RampantIvy · 28/12/2024 12:19

Xenia · 27/12/2024 21:31

My baby sister who lived for 21 days was born in about 1969 and she had down's syndrome. My parents always called it that to us and to each other (my father was a doctor). They also said some people used the term mongol but that then (and now) that was offensive and not to be used.

Despite my comment it is definitely made with the eyes of today. I do like the series. I read the books long before it was made and loved those too.

The books were grittier and more realistic. On the TC show most people have much nicer clothes not even worn out than even I wear in 2024 (other than those they are trying to portray as very destitute).

Anyway I do like it.

Sorry to hear about your sister.

I think we are similar in age, and I remember playing in the park with the children from the children's home near us (this would have been about 1969/1970).

One of them brought a pram with a baby with them and said that the baby was a mongol, a term I think might have still been common usage back then. I have no point of reference. At the time I didn't know about down's syndrome and it was the first time I had seen a child with it (I would have been about 10 or 11).

Being the daughter of a doctor you would have heard all the correct medical terms that most of us wouldn't.

Taytocrisps · 28/12/2024 13:40

I watched the first episode last night and the second one today.

The earlier episodes were great, but I think the series is well past its prime, for all of the reasons so many of you have articulated.

There were a lot of things which jarred, because they wouldn't have been said or done in the late '60s or early '70s. For example, one of the escaped convicts made a reference to a pina colada. I doubt very much a hardened criminal of that era would have been familiar with cocktails. Miss Higgins's grandson appeared to be wearing a Christmas jumper. The radio announcement about Reggie's disappearance referred to him as having Down's Syndrome, but I suspect they would have phrased it differently back then. However, in this era of cancel culture, I can understand why they didn't open up that particular can of worms.

As pps have noted, the Cork accent is very distinctive. There's no way that Nancy hails from anywhere near Cork.

Trixie and her husband were bankrupt in the last series, but now she has the money to fly home at the drop of a hat - and I can only imagine how expensive transatlantic flights would have been back then. Also, she was laden down with shopping bags when she arrived. She referred to the business as doing well, but they appear to have made a lot of money in a very short space of time. And who is looking after Jonty while she's away? Matthew? And Trixie didn't seem remotely upset or disappointed that she wouldn't be able to spend Christmas with her DH and stepson.

Cyril (the mechanic/engineer/Social Worker/pastor) continues to loiter around aimlessly. He doesn't appear to have any job at this point - he's just ready to step in whenever there's an issue. They're definitely setting him and Rosalind up as a couple. They just need to dispose of the mad woman in the attic Lucille.

Mrs. Turner is still the perfect Stepford Wife. She manages to combine motherhood and midwifery with ease, but still finds the time to rustle up award winning mince pies and conduct the children's choir.

I can overlook some of the above - poetic licence and all that. But too much of it and it makes for a very unrealistic series. It contrasts sharply with some of the very difficult and shocking storylines in the earlier episodes. I'm sure everyone remembers the storyline about the backstreet abortionist and the domestic abuse/paedophilia storyline featuring Anita Dobson (iirc, this was also a Christmas special).

Anyway, back to the storylines.

I think Dr. Turner someone should have died of flu, to make it more realistic.

I correctly diagnosed jaundice in the fairground couple's baby.

The family who were evicted have been described as Dickensian, but I suspect there are a fair few families in the same predicament today.

I have a soft spot for Fred and Violet and they can usually be relied on for a bit of humour, but they were very subdued in the Christmas special, owing to Reggie's disappearance.

The most interesting scene was probably the one in the kitchen featuring Sister Veronica and Geoffrey. She confessed to liking him and for a minute I wondered..... But I think the brandy loosened her tongue and she was just being honest and expressing affection for him. Is she having doubts about her vocation? I mean, nuns don't usually expect to have babies. And he in turn seemed to be hinting that babies wouldn't be on the cards for him.

The conversation between Sister Julienne and the official (is he a Council official?) also struck me as realistic. He was dripping with contempt for her and viewed the Order as standing in the way of progress.

OnGoldenPond · 28/12/2024 19:35

Toddlerteaplease · 25/12/2024 20:31

Ah. Can't help
Thinking how times change..we kick kids who've had their adenoids out in a couple of hours now. And if you've had a tonsillectomy, soft diet is discouraged. Crisps and crunchy food is advised.

Yep, had my tonsils out in mid 70s. Had to eat cornflakes and toast straight after the operation in hospital. Was outraged as my Grandma had told me I would only have to eat ice cream! Grin

CarefulN0w · 28/12/2024 20:31

Of course the series requires a gay man so that in a decade or so's time, brilliant Dr T can identify a new disease affecting the immune systems of gay men...

Toddlerteaplease · 28/12/2024 20:44

@OnGoldenPond we often get parents grandparents thinking it's still recommended.

twilightcafe · 28/12/2024 21:03

CarefulN0w · 28/12/2024 20:31

Of course the series requires a gay man so that in a decade or so's time, brilliant Dr T can identify a new disease affecting the immune systems of gay men...

Ha! You're probably right!

Lecturn · 28/12/2024 22:36

Megan Cusack who plays Nancy, us indeed from West Cork. She has a very mild Cork accent which became slightly more pronounced in some of her interactions with her new beau.
As a fellow Corkonian, I recognised her accent when she initially joined the show.

LaudElpus · 28/12/2024 23:14

I remember this era and everything was not teal coloured. Is there anyone out there with expertise in the TV industry who can explain why they seem to be using a teal filter on the lens and /or sloshing teal paint over everything , clothes , cars , kitchens , walls .
PS thought the first part was crap , the second part did improve a bit .

AInightingale · 29/12/2024 00:15

At one point, Sheila's actual TEETH were blue, she looked as if she'd been using those disclosing tablets we got given in primary school.

MintSpiesAtTheReddy · 29/12/2024 07:43

LaudElpus · 28/12/2024 23:14

I remember this era and everything was not teal coloured. Is there anyone out there with expertise in the TV industry who can explain why they seem to be using a teal filter on the lens and /or sloshing teal paint over everything , clothes , cars , kitchens , walls .
PS thought the first part was crap , the second part did improve a bit .

Variations of teal and orange are used a lot in film. It's because - apparently - your skin looks best with a slight orange hue and teal is opposite on the colour wheel and so looks best with orange to give a pleasing tone and make the colours 'pop'. Often used in period prices to create a comfort feeling. It's over used colour theory.

But once you see it, it's everywhere - especially about ten years ago. Film posters - and entire films! - also often variations in teal and orange.

Samcro · 30/12/2024 09:50

i might have dreamt it, but hasn't Reggie gone missing before?

Wizzardry · 30/12/2024 13:50

I wish they'd put Vanessa Redgrave out to pasture.
Her voice is terrible, the monologue at the end is sickening, it went on far too long and is so patronising and cheesy.

The plotline is so predictable. The moment the family were turned out of their house and were homeless, I said to DH' Here we go...a baby will be born in a a stable'.

The political points made throughout are so obvious.