Nicola Bulley documentary about internet ghouls

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BBC documentary tonight examining the damage caused by MCE tiktok empaths and detectives.

Good point, she did some from of online selling, no idea if it was MLM but if she has lots of followers some may have felt a bizarre ownership of her or that they knew her, of course thats not the case in reality

She was a mortgage adviser.

Not just this case either. The ghouls on here were disgraceful over Michael Mosley and Jay Slater. Absolutely vile comments both before and after they were found.
I noticed the same usernames showing up on those two threads and the Nicola Bulley one and also the Princess of Wales cancer threads.

The Nicola B incident made me want to turn off the internet. All of the 'It doesn't add up brigade' thinking they knew better than the family and police. They felt they had the right to intrude, inserting themselves and their opinions into the tragedy. Absolutely awful.

Yes but her Partner said she "sold things online" and there was a video of her doing it so perhaps she had a sideline?
It doesn't give the nutters a right to behave like they did though

It was a well-done documentary, the family were so brave to talk about what they went through.

The moderation on MN during the time she was missing was outrageous. Thread after thread of speculation. Hopefully this thread won't go the same way...

I actually thought last nights docu was going to name Mumsnet, the speculation at the time was insane. I didn't know about the psychic/attention seekers until last night. People really need to get hobbies.

It was so sad. The families pain and heartbreak was so clear and difficult to watch. The fact that their pain and heartbreak was made worse by nut jobs on the internet taking shit all day long to the idiots that watch them…made me very angry.

I haven't watched it, but my family came extremely close to being in this poor family's situation. I'm only just starting to realise how terrible it would have been.

We wouldn't have given interviews and I am certain that our demeanour would have seemed strange.

There seems to be some odd expectation about how people under great stress should behave. Let me tell you, it's not necessarily as you'd imagine.

There is a similar case going on right now, and it's only a matter of time before that distraught family come in for the same treatment.

I haven't watched it yet because i struggle with this type of topic, but i have posted in the past on those type of threads, reminding people that the families of missing people read this utter nonsense your spewing and the fact you're treating it like entertainment.

I have a family member, still long term missing, and you read this nonsense, because of course you search regularly, just on the off hopes of some kind of message from them or just... just hope essentially.

And you find just websites upon websites, Facebook groups, reddit threads, dedicated "sleuthing" forums, all sorts, of just absolute weirdos, treating it like a form of entertainment and justifying it by ooh we're keeping it in peoples minds, no you're not, you're in an echo chamber of other weirdos speculating all sorts of just unsubstantiated rubbish and in some cases, making money off it (YouTubers tiktokers etc)

Even after the facts have come out you still get people on the internet being like nope i know better.

The internet in cases of missing people, is helpful as you can get the message out quickly, you can communicate quickly and for free with your local community that the person is missing in, but fucking hell the negatives, it reaches people it has no business reaching and becomes an international spectacle. Rather than just keeping an eye out, as people would in the past, conspiracy people, can gather together and just spout the most offensive ridiculous theories and keep it going and going and take it upon themselves to "investigate" and contact friends and family and its forever, so when kids are older and want to know more about that family member or families are just desperately holding onto hope, they can read all the disgusting things said about them and the wrong theories by gleeful people posting like its a soap opera. Whole businesses, podcasts, YouTubers, tiktokers are made on the back of the "drammaaaa" of missing people, makes me fucking sick.

Apologies for the rant, just makes me angry and I'm building myself up to watching it.

I didn’t watch the programme but so sad that her family still don’t know exactly what happened to her and how she ended up in the water.

The threads on here at the time were full of ghouls. When people asked them to stop and think of the family, they just got even worse. MNHQ really should have put a stop to it. I'd like to think that those individuals would listen to what the family are saying now and act differently, but I'm sure they won't. Bunch of cunts.

@mynamechangeisthis I'm so sorry.

Of course you search the name of your loved one.

What you're finding though is no reflection on them; it's not real. It's just people positioning themselves, talking about themselves, same as they do everywhere else on the internet.

I thought the documentary last night was sensitive and well made and it gave the family a voice. I don't know how I'd feel about watching it experiencing what you do though.

Yes there were.

@mynamechangeisthis I'm so sorry to hear you're living through your own personal nightmare, that must be so tough x

I haven't watched the doc yet but I will, that poor woman was in my head this week anyway now that there's another missing person (woman) case in the news.. I was waiting for it all to start up again

The programme showed she also did MLM (Body Shop).

The moderation on MN during the time she was missing was outrageous. Thread after thread of speculation.

It was dreadful. Same with the Princess of Wales threads. There were people reporting them and on the threads begging MNHQ to shut them down, but they were allowed to continue even after she made her announcement.

I mean, they interviewed these people. I think they should have pushed them more strongly about what they have done. None of this allowing them to get away with ' oh in the great scheme of things what I did wasn't that important ' after the event. Including some of the 'journalists'

although in the end it was a so called psychic who found her

the police did not apologise for their statement about her alcohol use
so awful for the husband, family, and the two children, the details of the case will forever be around.
i think if it had happened before christmas there would have not been so much speculation, tiktokers all over the world, treating it like Netfix

i am so sorry @mynamechangeisthis

Watched this yesterday, very sad but pleased the family got their chance to have their say.

I also heard a radio programme a few months back where they examined why the case had gained so much coverage and traction. They said they felt the police should have briefed the journalists at the start, to say they had good reasons for thinking she was definitely in the water. Cant remember the phrase for it but its an agreement that they don't over report on the situation.
They also said it had gained the coverage it did because she was white, attractive, youngish, and made the point that many people go missing and it doesn't become a huge news story.

Those people are very low quality but they wouldn't recognise themselves as such so nothing will ever change. They have no 'brakes', just ghoulish fervour.

I always am disappointed in MNHQ's moderation of this and every other 'high profile' incident. It must be for 'clicks', there's no other reason to let vile threads full of speculation, stand.

The programme had me almost shouting at the TV, why on earth were the tiktok brainless idiots not challenged on their stupidity? Why was the grisley woman allowed to pedal her nonsense?

the police did not apologise for their statement about her alcohol use
The police should not have done this, at least not without the approval of the family but they were trying to shut the ghouls up who were wandering round crime scenes and abusing her partner online. As a result of the police doing that, the online idiots were given a free pass to exonerate their own poor behaviour because the police were ' victim blaming' (as if they hadn't victim blamed the partner) and ' invaded her privacy' with no irony at all or looking at their own poor behaviour.

I was glad to see Nicola's family given a chance to show how they were impacted by the awful press/SM witch hunt that ensued following Nicola's disappearance. It really disgusts me how tragic events like that have become entertainment for so many people who, as her partner Paul said, just love the drama. All those Tiktokers should be utterly ashamed of themselves. They added precisely NOTHING positive to the solving of her disappearance, just added to the pain and anguish of her loved ones. They're disgusting, all of them.