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Into the Fire - The Lost Daughter (Netflix)

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ilikeeggs · 17/09/2024 22:28

Has anyone watched this?

Feel so sad for Aundria and the fact nobody helped her while she was alive.

Brenda should be charged too, I don’t think I’ve ever come across a woman so far in denial as her.

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Harry12345 · 18/09/2024 10:10

I watched it last night, I was gripped, so so sad for that poor girl and Brenda is as bad imo, makes me rage she had the ashes. The both of them giggling and talking about what he had done as if he stole a chocolate bar was shocking!

Mochudubh · 18/09/2024 11:00

I watched most of this last night, still have about half hour to go. I agree it was gripping. Cathy's sheer bloody-mindedness in seeking justice for her daughter was incredible. Metta's determination in tracking down her kidnapper too, I'm glad she and Cathy have formed an almost mother/daughter relationship.

I actually think Brenda has some sort of mental impairment (trying to find a term that won't be deleted). It's almost as though having a husband is the most important thing in life, like a status symbol no matter how awful his crimes. It's quite possibly what attracted Dennis to her in the first place. IIRC they were very young when they met and he was her first and only boyfriend.

Iloveagoodnap · 18/09/2024 18:57

Oh good, I was hoping for a thread about this. I watched it the last couple of days and was gripped. Poor Cathy. To have to give up your child must be awful but she spent years thinking she was having a great life. Only then to find out she'd been missing for decades and was possibly a dead Jane Doe. To discover she wasn't the Jane Doe so might be alive. Only to then discover what actually happened to her and what kind of 'parents' she had been living with!

That poor child was badly let down by her father mostly but also her mother, and also whatever the equivalent of social services is where she lived. Surely when her father was jailed for five years and the judge stated he posed significant harm to women, upon his release her mother should have been told she had to keep the child away from the father. And if she refused, which she probably would have done as she was delusional, Aundria should have been taken into care, her birth mother informed and ideally she should have been returned to Cathy after a positive parenting assessment. Why on earth was he allowed back to the family home with no concerns over a child with no biological link to him living there?!

And the fact that Brenda was given the body really annoyed me. The remains should have been returned to Cathy.

Iloveagoodnap · 18/09/2024 19:03

It would have been interesting to hear from Vanessa, Dennis and Brenda's birth daughter, at the end of the programme. I know we saw her at the prison visit with her mum but that was before he admitted killing Aundria and she was quite annoyed on his behalf that they thought he was capable of that. I wonder what she thought when she found out the truth? Did she understand her mum's point of view and stay supportive of her dad? Or did she turn away from them both and decide she wanted nothing to do with either of them anymore?

ilikeeggs · 18/09/2024 19:34

Yes there’s something not right with Brenda, I mean how can she stay with someone who did such things even to her own daughter! You could tell he was very manipulative though like when he bought her flowers and kept saying he loved her from prison but sometimes the mask would slip like when he got angry that Brenda kept asking where Aundrias body was.

I feel for Cathy who obviously thought she was doing the right thing giving up her daughter and that she’d have a better life, she must feel an immense amount of Guilt and regret.

I also can’t understand how Dennis was allowed to live with his daughters after what he’d been convicted for! Where was Social services?

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qwertyasdfgzxcv · 21/09/2024 18:25

I wouldn't mess with Cathy!

AreolaGrande · 27/09/2024 22:27

I've just watched this tonight and am so very angry 😠.

Poor Alexis/Aundria being placed with those absolute degenerates. I fully believe that Bowman was abusing her for a long time and I believe that the birth of their biological/"real" daughter will have escalated the abuse towards Aundria. No way in hell did she die from a fall down the stairs.

He is obviously the one to blame for the murder but Brenda made me feel absoutely sick. Vile woman. Even giving her the benefit of the doubt as an obviously not bright and very possibly abused/manipulated woman, the way she spoke about Aundria was appalling 😟. She prioritised her husband over everything else in the world. Them good old American Christian values 🙄

Cathy is a force of nature. Flawed but ferocious in her search for justice for her baby girl.

blubberball · 27/09/2024 22:33

It was a crazy watch. Crazy that she knew exactly who killed her daughter and where the body was, but no one believed her

blubberball · 27/09/2024 22:34

Brenda should have returned the entire ashes to the Cathy the birth mother out of respect. Cathy uncovered the truth about Brenda's husband, which Brenda had failed to do

AreolaGrande · 27/09/2024 23:45

blubberball · 27/09/2024 22:34

Brenda should have returned the entire ashes to the Cathy the birth mother out of respect. Cathy uncovered the truth about Brenda's husband, which Brenda had failed to do

Yes it felt like a deliberate act of antagonism by Brenda.

Given that she categorically failed to fulfill the role of parent to Aundria and to protect her, she should've offered to give her back to Cathy in her entirety, as she was given her in the first place.

Srill angry but now mostly just very sad for all the girls and women lost at the hands of men 😢.

forevernumb · 28/09/2024 10:08

Sorry I just posted about this. Watched this last night. The twists and turns were 😳 This is the problem with some of these Church obsessed people. He was a real nasty bastard.

annonymousse · 28/09/2024 10:19

That poor kid. It would seem safeguarding just never happened. How the adoptive parents managed to get through the vetting process is amazing. Brenda made me sick. She must've known. However I couldn't warm to Cathy. I don't really understand why. She was ferocious and unrelenting in her search and her reasoning for giving up her daughter were selfless. There was just something about her that gave me bad vibes.

blubberball · 28/09/2024 21:43

Does make you wonder how many other crimes he committed that have gone unsolved

mnahmnah · 28/09/2024 22:00

I just don’t understand why nothing happened when Aundria disappeared. No investigation. Nobody looked for her. School did nothing.

forevernumb · 28/09/2024 23:12

You would have thought the police would have checked their house thoroughly eg the father said he burnt some of her stuff in the yard. 🤷‍♀️

blubberball · 29/09/2024 04:46

I was shocked that he went to prison previously for being a danger to women, and was then released to go home to his wife and adopted daughter

forevernumb · 29/09/2024 11:25

mnahmnah · 28/09/2024 22:00

I just don’t understand why nothing happened when Aundria disappeared. No investigation. Nobody looked for her. School did nothing.

They fell too easily for the " she had run away " story because he said she had taken money etc. They were probably also swayed by the small town Church ethos. It's always the same with these stories " it was a small town place where this kind of thing never happened".
It disgusted me when in the interview he depicted the devil who did it / horns, tail etc 🙄 . He is a nasty nasty specimen and as for his wife she is as bad as him.

dreamer24 · 08/10/2024 21:08

I've just watched this on Netflix, oh my goodness, how poignant. I cried - for both Cathy & Aundrea. What an absolute monster that man is. Cathy was amazing - she knew from the start where her baby girl was, that was a mother's instinct in full force! Absolute final insult that Brenda (awful woman) kept half of her ashes - they rightfully belonged with her birth mother. 😔

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