The Fall: Skydive Murder Plot

[Stinkerantibiotic]

Anyone else watching this? Halfway through episode 1 and am honestly not sure how I feel about either of them - she seems so deluded and cold! Obviously he is worse, but she seems to be completely unable to contemplate he hates her even though he was the only one with access to her parachute. I can't wait to see how her eyes are opened (presumably!) by the end!

There's a thread for this already

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/telly_addicts/5087008-the-fall-skydive-murder-plot-channel-4

I did try to do a search to find a thread but nothing came up! I'll head over and read through what people think.

No comments there either.May as well keep it in here! @Stinkerantibiotic

I'm @Stinkerantibiotic in the first trial she testified for the defence then she has some more time to consider it all and in the next trial testified against him

That detective woman was ghastly. Nice to see at the end she admitted she was a man hater.

I'm just about to start the second episode - by the end of the first it seemed she had realised maybe he wasn't what she had thought he was!

Yeah the gas incident comes in at the start of ep2. She still believed in him though, until her tune changed.

From the first episode he was trying to flirt with her to get her on side. I could understand why she felt that as weird and creepy given the mother of his kids was in ICU...

I'm on ep 3. It's a very odd case, the husband is a horrible man. I think the female police officer is just very used to cases like this, or men like that so has a very hard front to protect herself.

I don't think the detective was a man hater. She was just experienced enough to spot the signs and behaviour of a narcissistic psychopath.

I agree - finished it last night. She saw through him which is what he didn't like.
I think it is a great thing to watch to understand women like the wife though - I always wondered who could end up with a psychopath and I can see now how they do it. It just takes a woman with trauma and no real network who isn't good at facing her problems (let's face it, a lot of us) to give them free reign to manipulate. I thought she was a cold fish at first, and maybe she is, but I think she was just so used to pushing everything down after her mum died she did it with her relationship too. Would have been interesting to hear from the "Steph" character - surprised she wasn't giving evidence but suppose she didn't need to as they had all of his texts.

It has made the relationships board make a lot more sense.

I have a friend who just got out of an awful marriage. She stayed with him for 30 years. He wasn't violent, but he was controlling, emotionally and financially to the point where she had a mental breakdown. Very similar circumstances in that her mother died when she was very young, not much family support. Very clever, talented woman, highly qualified, fell for the first man who seemed to offer her love and a family. He moved her abroad and prevented her from picking up her career. She wanted children, he didn't. So very sad and a wasted life. The signs were there from the beginning, but it took her a long time and a lot of support to get out.
Once you know what the signs are, it is easy to spot.

I lost my mum mid 20's and I think it is very hard to explain to people how much of you is lost when your one main champion isn't able to support you. I don't feel I've been myself since and certainly have missed her help and support with kids. I do think women need female role models growing up to help them understand men, and what a good one is for starters.

I’m halfway through episode 1.

WTF is going on with the reconstruction style?! Is this a new arty way of doing it? It’s very distracting and it’s confusing the story

I’ve given up on this now - why are they suddenly asking the police officer about her relationship with her ex?? That filming format is too weird and unnecessary

I found the format really annoying and distracting.

I acknowledge this is victim blaming and I like to learn more to stop feeling this way- but I become very annoyed and frustrated in these situations where the denial is so strong from the wife that she even lied about what she had seen him do in Court in order to protect him.

I guess this shows you how vulnerable you can be, especially if you have no rational support around you to help you see what is happening or being done to you.

This man is absolutely disgusting and vile beyond comprehension.

I listened to the podcast and he really is a vile human being. Yes it's also hard to understand her feelings about him , total control maybe , disbelief that someone could do that , the poor kids .

If you want a bit of light relief I strongly recommend watching Niall Rodgers on you tube. He really does lift my heart!

I think a couple of you have not understood coercive control at all. These abusers twist your reality until you don't know what's up or down, black or white. They make you doubt your thoughts and judgements. And desperately... You want to go backwards to the person you knew before.

I found it all too horribly relatable and it hurt to watch it.

I don't think your reading is right @Stinkerantibiotic . It's not women with trauma necessarily or ones without a network. You can lose your network because they gradually and cleverly isolate you though. I also know from my experience, that intelligent women can find it harder because you can rationalise and you have cognitive dissonance.

It's interesting and heartbreaking stuff. And it takes years to recover. I'm glad Victoria is recovering. It's like a spell was broken by the end.

https://speakoutloud.net/myths-about-domestic-violence/belief-in-a-just-world/cognitive-dissonance-family-violence