I have 15 minutes to persuade bolshy toddler to let me watch Eastenders

[Jane68]

She is currently watching a marathon Scooby Doo session, how do I do this without it kicking off royal?

emkana, whats is like being so patronising?

Look just keep doing what you're doing, your family is obviously happy and thriving, so good on you.

I personally wouldn't want my children to watch Eastenders or Holby City or suchlike, but you're the mother, so your decision.

Jane68

What is it like to be failing your child on so many levels ??

Do you know desperate housewife lady, it feels good.

And when you feel that she is misunderstood by society, when you are blaming her teachers, when in essence she has no boundaries how will you feel then ??

Wonderful another short sighted reactionary. Who says she has no boundaries? There are plenty of behavioural and moral boundaries in this home. What a stupid conclusion to come to just because I let her watch Eastenders, get a grip lady.

Jane - what exactly were you hoping to get out of starting this thread?

Is your dh there watching with you too?

It was started light heartedly, I forgot there was a complete and utter lack of humour on this site.

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I must admit I agree that it's a bit much to suspect Jane of raising a future teenage delinquent on the evidence that we have in front of us.

But nevertheless I insist that it's very wrong IMo to let young childrne be around when these types of programmes are on.

Fine emkana, we have differing parenting styles, thats what makes the world go round. I would never dream of drawing the outrageous conclusions about anyone on here or in 'real life' on such a tiny amount of information. I have seen how people are jumped on and demonised on Mumsnet for the most innocent of comments and I think it is deeply wrong. All these perfect mothers on here need to take a good hard look at their own behaviour before they start casting their stones.

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Well on the TV thing we'll have to agree to disagree.

On MN in general, there will always be threads like this, if you feel like it try and search for my thread in which I proposed to let a seven year old fly alone to Germany. All hell broke loose!

All water under the bridge now though, and so will this be, if you let it.

Motherfunk, I agree, however I do think a lot of the people on here have a big problem or are so deeply unchilled about life they have to sit in judgement on bloody everyone over the tiniest of matters, they quite frankly p*ss me off.

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The thing is, my niece who is only 5 has been watching the likes of Holby city, Casualty, Corrie, EastEnders and whatever else since she was a baby.

My sister was moaning the other day that her DD was having nightmares almost every night about blood and and people's insides - (maybe something to do with watching Holby, Casualty, etc).

She also let her watch the EastEnders scene with Max being buried (which I thought was sick). This kind of TV was not made for 4 or 5 year olds and shouldn't be watched by them.

So you said Shaneice, yawn.

Sorry Jane but just telling you that these programmes CAN have an affect on little ones.

So can everything Shaneice, its called life and to create a well rounded socially responsible person you need to expose them to it. I find the attitude that her watching a prewatershed programme the vast majority of which goes straight over her head is causing her harm laughable to be frank.

ds1 (2.10) needs a surprisingly little amount of sleep. He dropped his afternoon nap just after his second birthday, which enabled us to get him to bed reliably before 9 . He goes to bed (as in sleep) between 8 and 9, and wakes between 7 and 8, although this has recently started getting earlier and earlier . And he is happy and healthy, and we have a consistent and decent evening/bedtime routine. So I wouldn't necessarily judge Jane on her dd's bedtime. But the TV-watching thing is wrong, very wrong. I think you're deluding yourself to assume most of it goes over the head of a child this age, Jane. And you have been very rude to several MNers.

I'm quite happy to have been rude to a lot of Mumsnetters thanks Berolina, I feel they have been incredibly offensive to me. I have seen this on so many threads and the original poster tends to run for the hills, I won't do that, I will stand and argue my corner and if that upsets people so be it. If people can't take a bit of stick then they shouldn't be giving it out.

I was not suggesting that your DD is the next whore of this parish.

I was however sugggesting that if she is not used to boundaries, then school is going to be a huge shock to her.

You keep her up,as stated by yourself because you work full time.

I know lots of people who work full time and observe "normal" routines for children but make up that time at weekends.

I work btw.

For the last time, I don't keep her up, she comes downstairs after her bath and falls asleep when she wants to in the living room not in her bedroom. I don't mind this because it means I can spend some time with her. She is not sleep deprived and is awake most mornings about 6.00 am regardless of what time she fell asleep, neither does she need naps. This is a routine which works for our family. Just because we do not have a conventional sleep routine does not mean there are no boundaries within the home. I have very strong ideas on what I feel is good behaviour and she is being raised accordingly. The tone of the posts from yourself and others has been to suggest I am a terrible parent and morally suspect, this I find very offensive among a lot of other things.

You say you want to spend time with her, and I think that's great and very understandable.

But how is watching Eastenders while she's around spending quality time with her? Couldnt' you skyplus it or watch it on BBC 3 later and actually do stuff with her?

To be honest not much TV watching happens, we are usually playing shop, feeding the imaginary animals or chit chatting. I would never ignore my child to watch tv or to do anything else. Once again the assumption that I am some selfish trollope cabbaging in front of the TV whilst my child fends for herself.