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LOST ENDING (spoilers)

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KatyPerryMenopause · 09/01/2024 21:44

Didn't want to chat on and spoil the "Lost watching 20 years later's" thread (as they might end up watching all seasons after all) but I never went beyond the first series.
Channel 4 said at the time that all would be revealed, including what the numbers were about, but the finale of series 1 revealed sweet fanny adams and I was livid so threw my dummy out.
However...did it end up that they were all in limbo/purgatory, similar to Ashes to Ashes despite both showrunners for both shows insisting early doors that was not and never would be the case?!

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brinw · 09/01/2024 22:36

However...did it end up that they were all in limbo/purgatory, similar to Ashes to Ashes despite both showrunners for both shows insisting early doors that was not and never would be the case?!

I think the flash sideways episodes were supposed to be purgatory if anyone can remember.

SpongeBobSquarePantaloons · 09/01/2024 22:42

It wasn't purgatory exactly. Everything that happened on the island really happened, and they were all alive. However, when they died, their souls would go to the flash sideways universe where they had to find each other again. Because they had to all move on to the afterlife together.

I don’t know why exactly, but that was what was said in the show. And so as everyone died, they moved across to the other universe. And they all found each other again and met up in the church, and then they all crossed over into the light together.

Except for Ben, who felt that he wasn't ready to move on - so he stayed outside. But I think it was more that he still felt that after all he had put them through, he didn’t deserve to move on with them. So he stayed back.

But they weren't dead all along, even though people always say that.

brinw · 09/01/2024 22:45

That's right. They weren't dead all along.

Thelootllama · 09/01/2024 22:45

I have got no idea what happened at the end of Lost TBH. I was a bit drunk when I watched the last episode. But I didn't actually feel like anything was ever given a satisfying answer and conclusion. There were lots of 'You could interpret it either way' kind of things. Or very well buried Easter eggs. But nothing made blatantly clear. Which was annoying.

Even by the end not even Matthew Fox or the bloke with nice hair whose name escapes me could save that show!

SpongeBobSquarePantaloons · 09/01/2024 22:47

I suppose the idea is that everyone who survived the crash on that island was lost - but when they met each other, they were found. It wasn't about being physically lost, but emotionally lost. The bonds they made with each other and the strength that brought out, that was being found.

KatyPerryMenopause · 09/01/2024 23:01

Thank you! Flowers I stopped being lazy and looked up the six series summaries on wiki but am none the wiser really. Do you think they ended up making it up as they went along?

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KatyPerryMenopause · 09/01/2024 23:01

Thank you! Flowers I stopped being lazy and looked up the six series summaries on wiki but am none the wiser really. Do you think they ended up making it up as they went along?

I remember when it came out that the writers said they had a plan for how many episodes they wanted to do and it wasn't as many as what then went on to be made. So I think they tried to drag it on too long TBH.

If it was made now, it would've been cancelled after two seasons!

BassoContinuo · 09/01/2024 23:22

I got confused quite early on - was the polar bear ever explained?

AgentCooperdreamsofTibet · 10/01/2024 10:07

Yes, to the explanation above. The island was not purgatory - it was 100% real. They survived the plane crash and lived out everything we saw on-screen.

My issue with Lost (and I really did love it) was that the introduced the "flash-sideways" in the final season which was really too late, and they presented it as a consequence of the bomb going off at the send of season 5. By that point, we were looking for things to be tied up, not a new mystery, so the actual tie-ups seemed rushed and lost (no pun intended) amongst the confusion of the flash-sideways. This meant that the final episode was essentialy a reveal/explanation of the flash-sideways rather than a proper ending to the whole show. IMO the church scenes would have still worked, and been even more powerful, if season 6 had been written differently throughout. Also, the fact that the flash-sideways ended up being purgatory, basically allowed the casual fans to take one message only from the finale - the answer was purgatory, and therefore think that they were right all along. The decision to show the plane flying overhead as Jack died (the rest leaving the island but this wasn't clear enough) and then the wreckage over the end credits, just added to the confusion.

Then Alan Dale did a load of TV interviews in which he said he didn't really understand any of the show but thinks that they were dead all along so more people jumped on that (we'll always believe good, dependable Jim Robinson) despite more regular actors saying the opposite.

I truly do beleive that Lost was tightly plotted for the majority of time and not just made up along the way. I think they were damaged badly by the writers strike which meant changing the ways in which the stories were presented and having various seasons on inequal length and of course there was additional padding in early seasons which came back to haunt them as this situation unfolded.

Many of the mysteries were explained - the polar bears were brought to the island for experimentation by the Dharma Initiative. They were given intelligance tests (fish biscuits) and trained to turn the wheel so that the DI could understand how the island worked. They broke out and roamed the jungle after Ben wiped out the DI.

A lot was left unexplained though and that is still frustrating. The fact that the numbers were just coincidence all along and many other things which were not definitely presented as mysteries on screen but had a lot of fans theorising - I, for example, was a huge believer in the theory that Charles Widmore was his own grandfather think they missed a trick in not addressing it.

Overall, I think Lost suffered from being the first tv show of its kind. The gradual introdiction of supernatural elements didn't sit well with audiences who thought they were watching a pshycological thiller about survival and the links between the survivors, but many popular shows now are supernaturally themed - Lost paved the way for that. I also don;t think a lot of folk had the patience to wait between episodes, especially when so much happened - it was hard to remember and keep up, week by week, and even worse in the longer breaks between series due to strikes. Introduced now, and available to binging, I think it would have a very different audience and reception.

I remain confident though that there will be a reboot/sequel with the children of the original group going to the island to learn about their parents' fate - Aaron, Charlie, Ji-Yeon, Clementine etc. Walt as leader, maybe.

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