THE WOMAN IN THE WALL. BBC 1 sun 9pm - TV PACE. NO SPOILERS

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this is a 6 part drama

1 is shown sun and then 2 on the monday

3456 the following 4 Sundays

it’s will no doubt be on iPlayer but try and not binge lovely people in my phone 😂😂😂

this will be tv paced

Ruth Wilson and Daryl McCormack are teaming up for a gripping new BBC drama, which is inspired by the horrifying revelations around Ireland's Magdalene Laundries.

The Woman In The Wall follows the horrors experienced by Lorna Brady (Ruth Wilson) is a woman from the small, fictional Irish town of Kilkinure, who wakes one morning to find a corpse in her house.

Lorna is chilled to the core as she has no idea who the dead woman is or if she could even be responsible for the apparent murder herself. This is a deadly possibility because Lorna suffers from extreme bouts of sleepwalking, which started around the time she was ripped from her life at the age of 15 and incarcerated in the Kilkinure Convent.

The Woman in the Wall follows Lorna Brady (Wilson), a woman who was incarcerated in a convent from a young age, where she traumatically gave birth – only to have the baby taken away from her to whereabouts unknown.

The awful treatment she endured continues to impact her life, causing extreme bouts of sleepwalking that end with her waking up in strange places with no memory of how she got there.

While her specific story is a work of fiction, the Magdalene Laundries were very real and are thought to have blighted the lives of tens of thousands of women.

Although their history dates back further, more is known about the practices of these institutions in the 20th century, where inmates entered via the criminal justice system, reformatory schools and the Health and Social Services sector.

Once inside, they would have to carry out unpaid labour, while many former inmates have reported being abused.

Magdalene Laundries became the subject of a media scandal in the 1990s, when a mass grave holding 155 bodies was discovered on the former grounds of one such institution in Drumcondra, Dublin.

Ruth Wilson is fab in this. Very believable.

Ruth Wilson is a terrific actress. I'm dying to see her on stage.

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Do we know what Clemence died of? If she was murdered the police don't seem to be investigating it. All I remember is her brother hearing a noise or a thud from upstairs and then he found her dead, but it seems unclear whether it was suicide or a natural death or what?

It was stated a heart attack but no autopsy was performed.

So it seems that there are lies at death, which could also mean lies at birth.

St Patrick's Mother and Baby home is believed to have the most deaths of babies and infants at birth, though they were buried in unmarked graves at Glasnevin.

Not at all like Tuam where the babies and infants were dumped in a well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Patrick%27s_Mother_and_Baby_Home

the small comment about (presumably the) father of her child being happily married with children - a whole generation of men either oblivious or traumatised about what happened to their teen sexual partners!

Oh yeah its the men who were traumatised. 🙄

Always the men. Poor souls.

tbh I was thinking mainly oblivious - but still! What on earth did they er do they think!

Too many flash backs / depictions of hallucinations. Just get on with the bloody story. It’s like we can’t work out what they’re feeling from the script and, I dunno here’s a revolutionary thought, the acting. They have to keep on labouring the point over and over.

without all the hallucinating from Lorna and your Dublin police fella, this could’ve been over by now. It’s tedious on the extreme.

I've watched first three episodes now, it's not what I expected at all, it's very strange, it's supposed to be 2015, Lorna and Clements had their babies mid eighties, yet the whole village seems to be stuck in the fifties, no talking, all hush hush, Clements brother is as odd as two left feet, and why is every house so dark, turn the bloody lights on for goodness sake.

I love Ruth Wilson but her accent is dire, and nobody would say call the police, they'd say call the gardai especially in a small village like that, priests, nuns and the gardai were in charge, and they all turned a blind eye to what was going on 😞

I think Ruth is suffering from delusions because of lack of sleep and the trauma she's been through, Aoife daughter said her dad was in Dublin so who's the guy in prison then.

I'll record the next three and watch them all together because even though I'm not loving it I want to see how it ends.

Great thread by the way, love the discussion

We think Aoife’s daughter isn’t who she says she is; either a journalist or someone else connected to the case. Aoife’s husband is in prison in Kilnamure so when Fake Daughter said her dad was in Dublin Lorna knew she was dodgy.

Not sure about Irish criminal law but surely they can’t hold him for this long without having actually charged him with the murder? Or have they done that and I missed it?

Too many flash backs / depictions of hallucinations. Just get on with the bloody story

I agree. The slowness and pretentious production is irritating.

If she was a journalist wouldn't she know he had been arrested?

Not sure about Irish criminal law but surely they can’t hold him for this long without having actually charged him with the murder? Or have they done that and I missed it?

He said he was the one who did it, but denied it was murder, just an accident. So manslaughter is what he's pleading.

The bloke who was Lorna's friend was very interested in the photo of Clemence's child, he looked quite sad and thanked Lorna for showing him. I thought he might have been the father.

I think it's so we don't know what is real and what is Lorna's hallucination.

Yes, I get that. But surely they can depict that without the endless, biting, headache inducing dream / hallucination sequences. Surely the acting should give us that more. It doesn’t need hammering quite so much. It’s boring and tone Wasting.

I wonder if the older Garda officer has some connection to it all as well. He said he was a young officer when it was all happening , but perhaps he was even father to a child born in the convent?

Here’s a thought, sorry if it’s been said, could Aofie have actually been removing the babies from the home? Faking their death certificates and then getting them out somehow? That would explain how she knew where they were.

No I'm pretty sure the dad is supposed to be someone they both went to school with.
It wasn't explicitly said but it was implied in a conversation in episode 2 I think it was.

@fernsandlilies and @CaptainMyCaptain - both of those thoughts crossed my mind too!

Id never thought of it from a male perspective. Obviously it goes without saying that the women’s suffering far outstrips that of the boys / men. But it would potentially be traumatising to know that you had a child and to have never been able to see them or know what happened to them, or to know that your actions led to a girl being essentially incarcerated and tortured.

He could be Clemence's baby's father. Don't think that was mentioned.

The father of Lorna's baby is now married with "three or four children", to which Lorna said something like "figures". Which I interpreted as he hadn't given two hoots about Lorna or the baby's fate.

Maybe i'm just cynical, but I would think generally most boys would have easily moved on after having dumped the blame and guilt on the girl. Have that (inexplicable) thinking that it was the right fate for her, like the girl's patents did. (And everyone in the town, who did know what was goining on in the laundries.)

Though I'm not cynical enough to think that some boys would be affected. So it wouldn't be a bad plot idea. Even if he wasn't a father of anyone's baby and it was just he really liked Lorna when they were young, and has for ever been upset and felt the injustice at what happened to her.