This England

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I'm off work, ironically with Covid,and started watching this this morning.

Its actually scary how good the acting is.

And it's a bit triggering-it's bringing back some memories of 2020 for sure. I think some people will find it pretty upsetting.

Ah yes, Definitely some of that here.

Why were they making people sign DNRs before they helped them?

for the purpose of freeing up beds quicker
So they could select who would be ventilated and who would be left to die

Just finished reading the failure of state book that was mentioned I believe in this thread. Again learnt a lot. None of it good (spoilers below but it you're watching this you kind of already know it)

Cover ups over just how badly the nhs was managing, doctors and NHS staff getting bollockings for speaking the truth on their social media's (and bosses going through them regularly to see!) told they could only retweet official releases about it and not the truth. One trust (looking at you Nottingham) locking away ppe as a punishment. Nhs staff not allowed to mention the lack of ppe! Having to choose who could get ventilation meaning people left on a ward with nothing and occasionally not even staff members. The admittance that if icu was full then they would take people off support if someone more likely to survive down to their "scores" arrived needing support. The forced dnar stuff, trusts being made to have GPS and staff ring to try emotionally blackmail elderly and poorly people that they wanted to stay at home and not go into hospital should the worst happen. There were trust targets and surgeries were bollocked for not meeting them. The list of dnars added to the register shot up 34k over just hree months of the first lockdown whereas annually before around 8k were added to the register.

The nhs scoring tool that meant if you were over 8 points (those over 80 automatically just through age and those 75 over with existing conditions just got starters) meant you were only treated on a ward and essentially given palliative care.... If there were actually any staff members to do so. There's 2 witness accounts of elderly people, one where they were all left half naked but for nappies, with no staff near whatsoever or checking on them got the entire time the man's family was allowed in (because he was dying) and one where the man died next to them with no staff help or intervention. Allegedly the nhs didn't use this tool but evidence after the fact shows they did... That and the fact that someone "accidentally" uploaded it into a public part of the nhs Scotland website and waited for it to be found and reported on.

Was surprised but also not surprised given the overall focus London gets over the rest of the country for... Well everything.... The up until the Friday morning before the lockdown speech that Boris and Cummings only wanted to lock down London and London alone 🤦🏻‍♀️

there was also been no nhs boss or government admittance to the date of the book being published (Jan 2021) that the nhs didn't handle it without struggling and failures and the lack of ppe and that the nightingale hospitals were so poorly used in fact some saw no patients. I was disappointed it didn't cover the rest of the lockdown of 2021 up to hancock affair reveal after it considered him puppy like and coined Hancockisms for announcing impossible deals with crossed fingers and good faithas though they will happen.... But they won't. (the testing cockup of "100,000 tests a day rubbish. It was really 83k, they fudged the numbers.)

... Sorry I appear to have ranted a bit. This show did a good job of showing some of the shockers though.

The forced DNAR's and the refusing to do anything for those with LD/elderly people and leaving them at home are certainly true of what happened to my clients in my services.

We have two services 'locked down' right now as everyone is positive (and some are very ill) I've put it in invested commas as it's self imposed (by me as the manager). There is no real
Official guidance and no one monitoring it.

It's making we wander, given that people are still sick, staffing is non existent etc etc what's the difference between then and now-what was the point in it all?

When the lists about dnars being placed on people first came out in the news at the time (and weirdly there wasn't enough shock and horror at it but I guess at the time we were kind of emotionally burnt out by what was coming out) I was fully expecting to receive one and was terrified do would as I'm a carer for my mum and if anything happened to me she was (and still is) screwed as I have a heart condition and it was reported that it was one of the 'triggers'. I'm so sorry for your service users that did receive them. Were they taken off post lockdowns or have they been conviniently forgotten?

Your post also reminds me of Boris et als excuse for the late lockdowns each time (the main mostly but also circuit breaker and Jan) was because they didn't want people to get "fatigued by being locked down too early".... So caused more deaths and infections , more lockdowns etc and continued to make us the worst country in Europe for all bad targets despite Italy having been a huge early warning.

(and also weirdly I was a shielder but she, with several major health conditions and extremely poor mobility including being housebound outside of me taking her to hospital etc appts wasn't an 'official' shielder. It seemed very weirdly labeled, especially from my trust.)

Am not quite through the full series yet but agree with others.

It's surprised me a bit how upsetting this is to watch after having lived through it. I think it's easy to forget that we all went through a disturbing time and for some it was absolutely tragic. Mentally we probably all took some degree of a hit and watching this just brings it straight back again.

I cannot believe he called the ventilator manufacturing project ‘operation last gasp’.

Then I googled it and yup, of course he said it in real life. What an absolute c**t he is!

I have recorded this so just marking my place to come back to later .

Seems so absolutely weird. I was in my 3rd year of uni. It was talked about and dismissed.

Then one day it all shut down.

I've just watched it and thought the same.

I thought it was fantastically done, it could've easily become ridiculous and it didn't. Really hard going though, the desperation of people trying to access health care made me really teary. A family member has serious life changing injuries due to not being given proper care during lock down and it brought back all the feelings of panic I felt at the time. It's a hard watch for sure.

Does he really go round quoting Latin? From what I've read he's a lot angrier and explosive in real life than portrayed.

I gasped myself when I heard him say that!!!

Just on episode 4. Is Patrick Grant from The Great British Sewing Bee playing himself or has he suddenly taken up acting?

Agree with others that the Matt Hancock actor is spookily accurate

I think he's playing himself.