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The Accused/ National Treasures on Trial

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OneFrenchEgg · 24/08/2022 21:05

Anyone watching?

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Twatling · 24/08/2022 21:30

I am

LunaLoveFood · 24/08/2022 21:36

I'm watching, finding it really interesting.

grayhairdontcare · 24/08/2022 21:37

It's really interesting

OneFrenchEgg · 24/08/2022 21:38

Already feels old, the banter and shows. Used to love Chris Evans.

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OneFrenchEgg · 24/08/2022 21:41

I do feel like cliff is suffering due to speculation and homophobia. Maybe I'm naive but I just get closet vibes from him nothing more.

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Laughingravy · 25/08/2022 16:21

Watched it last night. Interesting, and I felt quite differently for each of the men featured:

I totally got Paul Gambaccini's frustration and anger given he was left hanging for a year, the accuser was known to have issues and previous form for spurious claims and that despite his name being all over the press he is legally forbidden to utter his accusers name.

Neil Fox was very clearly a bit too close up and personal at work and he knew it. So his real crime was being crap at reading people and not getting why not everyone wants Mr Fun in their personal space. Not impressed when he said it wasn't a 'crime' though, like that makes being too touchy feely okay then.

I was never much taken with Cliff, smug and self important, though I almost felt sorry for him until he declared he'd spent £5 million defending himself and only got £2.6 million in damages. Given where he was in his life and career he could have just expressed his outrage and left it there. But no his ego got the better of him. His fan base didn't suffer as they are fanatics who won't hear a word said against him and for the rest of us he's pretty much irrelevant. I do think both the cops and the BBC screwed up big time though and I hope people got disciplined for that aspect of the case..

OneFrenchEgg · 25/08/2022 17:28

I agree except for the Cliff thing - he's kept very quiet about his personal life and I think to be accused of paedophilia must be horrific so I don't care how much he wanted to defend himself. Assuming he's innocent, which I do. (Not a fan, fanatical or otherwise).
NF seemed a bit too cocky and unrepenting, I think he definitely was just very unable to understand people don't like close contact / banter etc type stuff.

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sangletea · 25/08/2022 22:19

I felt sorry for Neil Fox's wife

PinballWizard18 · 25/08/2022 22:22

So he wasn't a real Dr!!! 😲😲😲

catfunk · 25/08/2022 22:55

Neil fox didn't come across well at all.

OnTheBrinkOfChange · 25/08/2022 22:57

This sounds interesting. Is it on iPlayer?

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Laughingravy · 25/08/2022 23:51

OnTheBrinkOfChange · 25/08/2022 22:57

This sounds interesting. Is it on iPlayer?

It was on Channel 4 so you should find it on Allfour

sangletea · 26/08/2022 08:24

Hopefully Fox, Gambaccini and all the other sleazy, powerful, perverted men will think twice about behaving inappropriately towards younger women and men in future

Southeastdweller · 26/08/2022 09:00

sangletea · 26/08/2022 08:24

Hopefully Fox, Gambaccini and all the other sleazy, powerful, perverted men will think twice about behaving inappropriately towards younger women and men in future

They weren’t convicted of anything, that was the main point of the programme. Your post is completely inappropriate.

sweatervest · 26/08/2022 09:54

i;m half way through it but have just thought what defines a national treasure. i totally wouldn't have put dr fox in that category or gambacini. cliff richard makes me want to vomit at the best of times.
plus didn't the press call cheryl cole a national treasure.

gambacini was on this morning talking about the programme and he harped on for ages and i think ruth and rylan zoned out and i don't blame them tbh.

Sapphirensteel · 26/08/2022 17:09

sangletea · 26/08/2022 08:24

Hopefully Fox, Gambaccini and all the other sleazy, powerful, perverted men will think twice about behaving inappropriately towards younger women and men in future

None were found guilty of anything. Paul Gambaccini’s accuser was revealed as a serial false accuser. Of course the police had to investigate but while his name was splattered across every tabloid and news channel his accuser has to remain secret. PG is forbidden by law to reveal his name. I thought he changed, looked very ill in the programme.

Cliff Richard spent the £5 million trying to get a change for others accused ( falsely or otherwise) He wasn’t acting just for himself. It was to prove the police acted wrongly tipping off the press and the BBC acted inappropriately in using the helicopter over his property to film the police going in.

Laughingravy · 26/08/2022 23:26

Sapphirensteel
Cliff Richard spent the £5 million trying to get a change for others accused ( falsely or otherwise) He wasn’t acting just for himself.
Not buying that for a second. He didn't say he did it of anyone other than himself and was clearly narked he spent more way than he got in compo. It really did him no favours saying so.

I'd also say regardless of who and why it seems bewildering that such a case would cost the plaintiff £5 million

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 04/09/2022 18:39

It is easy for the journalists to say that there are very few false allegations and that the positives outweigh the negatives.

I do agree with that and the bigger picture is important.

However. The ‘fine lines’ and that woman journalist saying she ‘totally understood’ the pain PG must have felt after being accused by someone maliciously?

Well no love - unless you’ve been through it yourself, you will never know. When you have malicious allegations made against you it kills your soul. I can’t imagine this sort of allegation - mine were bad enough.

I will be never be able to forget what my accuser did to me. Never.

The injustice of it all is cruel and those making malicious allegations deserve the misery they cause tenfold.

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