Pistol on Disney

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Anyone else watching it? The reviews are terrible but I'm loving it - lots of fun and the live scenes are great.

The irony of a man who sold butter on the telly trying to stop this from going ahead because it was against everything they stood for is not lost on me
I love John Lydon but yes. Glass houses and all that 😆

Because he wants his narrative to be the sole narrative.

I did wonder if they'd paid him to kick off about it, it was so perfectly on brand..

I'm Only on episode one but loving it so far. Happy memories!
No one would have said "cool" then or Bowie to rhyme with no, go etc. maybe the American would. It rhymed with wow. Why did he name his son Zowie, even if he did change it to Joey?

I’m totally enjoying it, punk was the soundtrack to my student life and it brings back lots of memories. I don’t understand the bad reviews either, I wish more modern music had the same energy and creativity. Love the fact that Sid Vicious was named after Johnny Rotten’s hamster.

I'm loving this. Funny how it's based on Jones' book and without collaboration with Rotten yet Jones' character so clearly lacks any charisma, the bits about him and Chrissie are the boring bits imo. Once Johnny or Sid are on screen that is when it all comes alive.

Without the outrageous characters Jones would have just stayed a below average scruffy guitar player in a pub band.

I wonder why Danny Boyle didn't send Johnny a script and ask for his involvement? The actor who plays him is brilliant.

I agree @JaniieJones Jones comes across exactly as he did at the time, just a bit of a jobbing guitarist who got lucky. It's Rotten who has the charisma, the one liners, and the insight into Malcolm. Chrissy doesn't fare too well either though, but I wouldn't say she was ever really punk.

I've saving watching the last episode!

Exactly @notaflyingmonkey Jones kind of spoils the whole thing really (obviously I've empathy for the abuse he endured as a child) but his bouffant hair and dad dancing just didn't suit the vibe imo. Even now his podcasts are boring af.

If you go on YouTube there are interviews with Anson Boon who played Rotten and the guy who played Sid and they're really respectful about Johnny and seem to admire him. I wonder if it was the only way Boyle could get the copyright to go via Jones as Rotten wouldn't agree to it. I like the chats between Rotten and Vicious in Pistol about having a cup of tea with his Mum, both such flawed but likeable characters.

I've got the last couple to watch, I'll be sad when it's over!

I do wonder if Lydon was actually consulted, but has gone down this route to keep the whole image of the dysfunctional nature of the band going - because so far he comes across as the most astute person.

If you haven't got to the 'Bodies' episode yet, that was a hell of an insight into that song that I would wonder how else they could have done it without his input.

I am curious about whether Steve really did learn to play the guitar in four days while high on stuff. It’s an interesting tale, though I find it hard to believe.
For those of you who like Cormoran Strike the guitar shop in front of the rehearsal warehouse is shown in the TV version of the series as being below Corm”s s office.

'If you haven't got to the 'Bodies' episode yet'

The bodies episode was sad. Loved the way Rotten gently suggested what to do with the contents of her bag. The thing that comes across amongst the chaos is they all seemed genuinely nice people, even Mclaren who was doing it for his own benefit had something likeable about him.

I was watching a punk docuseries on Sky Arts the last few days and JR was choking up a bit talking about Sid. He said that someone like Sid would never have meet someone like Nancy if JR hadn't introduced them.
I don't see how as they were moving in the same circles and I was always under the impression that Nancy was a bit of a groupie on the lookout for a rock statar bf (I could be wrong about her obviously).

Sid was always going to die young, he didn't stand a chance having a heroin addict as a dm supplying and enabling.
There was a series about the last 24hrs of his life and how he'd nearly died already the same night after an od then hours later his dm allegedly gave him his fatal od.
You just wonder who else he had around him as a dc and why he was actually left in the care of his pathetic mother.

I finally got round to watching this, absolutely loved it. I was only little during the punk era but I think he perfectly captured the shabby late 70’s I distantly remember, and the need for something big to happen. I thought John Lyndon came off really well and it’s a shame he isn’t happy with it but at the same time that’s kind of perfect. What really struck me was how young they were, to be the catalyst for such a dramatic cultural shift. When Sid died my next door neighbour spray painted Goodbye Sid on the local subway and it stayed there for years.

Loved it too- really can’t understand the bad reviews. Made me see JR in a totally different light. As a complete genius rather than the strange man on the butter ads from when I was a child! Also didn’t realise how good the music was, been listening to it quite a bit. DB and all the young actors must be gutted by the bad reviews - completely unjustified

Also looked up JR now to find he is the sole career for his wife who has dementia. A beautiful love story

I think JR is, and was then, a decent person. He married the mother of Ariana who was the singer in the Slits and they stayed together. I was a punk and I didn't and don't rate the Pistols musically or as fun to see, but very significant. The Damned brought out the first punk single (New Rose, I still have my copy), not the Pistols. The Damned were brilliant to see live

Rotten does seem a really nice person. I like hearing how kindly and respectfully he talks about his wife.