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Gemma Collins self harm and me

41 replies

Gonnagetgoing · 16/02/2022 21:14

Anyone watching?

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QueenOfHiraeth · 16/02/2022 21:18

I'm going to catch up in a minute against my own better judgement. I'd love to think this would be meaningful but suspect it will just be more attention seeking from a self publicist...

onedayatatime73 · 16/02/2022 21:19

I felt the same. But so far it's a completely different person to the GC.

applepineapple · 16/02/2022 21:20

What channel please?

TheChosenTwo · 16/02/2022 21:22

Forgot about this, will catch it on plus 1.
If nothing else I think it’s an important issue being raised, one which I think will have affected more people than have ever said so.

Gonnagetgoing · 16/02/2022 21:30

@onedayatatime73

I felt the same. But so far it's a completely different person to the GC.
@onedayatatime73 I think she’s moreorless the same person and I think it’s been hyped, exaggerated etc for tv.

Wish I didn’t feel like this but she lies so much.

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TheVolturi · 16/02/2022 21:36

Has she actually been self harming or does she mean over eating?

Gonnagetgoing · 16/02/2022 21:39

@TheVolturi

Has she actually been self harming or does she mean over eating?
@TneVolturi

She says she’s been self harming which led to over eating.

I actually feel a bit sorry for her as she seems to not be able to show her feelings. And based on her mum’s influence.

But I can’t help thinking she’s trying to pull the wool over people’s eyes.

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whysoserious123 · 16/02/2022 22:37

Haven't watched it but someone has mentioned Gemma has no scaring but I always thought anything a person does to themselves that is damaging Is self harm . Putting themselves down, Over/under/restrictive eating , starvation, alcohol/drug abuse, sexually reckless, ruining relationships,cutting themselves not always where people can see the list goes on . Everyone has insecurities and I'm sure it must be hard to deal with nasty comments all the time with being a curvy woman who's famous as society expect wan to be a certain way. So maybe she's genuine maybe she isn't but I'm sure everyone at some point in their life will struggle with their be no real health.

CatNamedEaster · 16/02/2022 22:42

I got a very different impression from some of you. I've never watched her in anything or read any interviews (but won't do that false ignorance that many do by claiming I don't know who she is Grin) so I guess I don't have any pre-formed ideas about her.

I felt very sorry for her. It looked to me like she gained so much understanding about it from her therapy, but her mum's inability to talk about it even now seemed to be a big frustration for her. As if she will not be able to fully accept or move on because her mum won't go into it.

As for the "I'm Gemma not the GC", who knows what the agenda is with editing? Could be that someone in the group was nervous/joking and said "what should we call you?" Or could be that she said it out of nervousness/bravado herself.

I'd rather believe and be proved wrong than say I don't believe someone who says they have self-harmed.

TheChosenTwo · 16/02/2022 22:52

It really struck a chord with me when someone said to her that if feelings weren’t shown/expressed at home then she may have lacked the tools to do so herself.
I’m trying not to take this personally but it’s quite hard to hear. And I consider myself a very open book regarding my children but actually now I look at it I have always tried my absolute hardest to shield them if I’m feeling sad or stressed or worried etc. which may have in turn had a negative impact on the way they processed things. Wow.

PinkArt · 16/02/2022 23:13

If not having scars means someone doesn't/didn't self harm then I guess I didn't do it then. People heal differently, people harm differently - one of mine was bruising my arms which was deliberate self harm but that has left no physical scars.
I thought it was a very brave decision to appear on the programme, considering the comments she likely knew she would get

StaplesCorner · 16/02/2022 23:27

I sat open mother at her mother’s attitude - that’s my biggest take away from it; Gemma “don’t blame yourself” Mum “I don’t!” ☹️

TheChosenTwo · 16/02/2022 23:32

Yes I was pretty aghast at her mum too.
And the “you were so happy at school, smiling in photos, you had no worries” and my heart breaks thinking about how happy my own dds look in photos from a same age and knowing now that they were not happy inside.
And the refusal to accept that she could have done things differently. Obviously that can’t change the past but it can help make a happier future.
I found the whole thing really sad to be honest.

Wafflesnsniffles · 16/02/2022 23:52

Ive never watched whatever show Gemma is famous for being in. The essex one?
No idea what "the GC" means.
I watched about 3 minutes and gave up!

onedayatatime73 · 17/02/2022 00:02

Mumsnet is not what it was. What vile responses. Have you read the hundreds on her Instagram tonight? From Harmers or from parents of those who have teenage harmers? Shame on you.

Squishmael · 17/02/2022 00:09

I've never seen her in anything else - although I have heard of her of course. I thought it was quite touching at times how she tried to tackle it with her Mum and it was batted back. Her mother was very damaged and in turn created an atmosphere in which the same happened to her daughter. It's very sad.

TheChosenTwo · 17/02/2022 00:09

@onedayatatime73 I wouldn’t stress yourself out about the naysayers- and I don’t mean to dismiss the naysayers at all. People talking about self harm and any kind of mental health issues gets it that bit more exposure and hopefully will open up avenues to get people talking eventually.
Not everyone will believe her but that’s not the point of the programme. I found I could really relate to some parts of it and have learnt things, that’s a good start for me.

LoveMySituation · 17/02/2022 00:17

Haven't seen the programme. But like a pp, I also have no scars from my years and years of self harm. Soft skin on stomach etc didn't scar, and you wouldn't have a clue I'd ever done anything of the sort to look at me now.

UnUdderOne · 17/02/2022 02:51

@CatNamedEaster

I got a very different impression from some of you. I've never watched her in anything or read any interviews (but won't do that false ignorance that many do by claiming I don't know who she is Grin) so I guess I don't have any pre-formed ideas about her.

I felt very sorry for her. It looked to me like she gained so much understanding about it from her therapy, but her mum's inability to talk about it even now seemed to be a big frustration for her. As if she will not be able to fully accept or move on because her mum won't go into it.

As for the "I'm Gemma not the GC", who knows what the agenda is with editing? Could be that someone in the group was nervous/joking and said "what should we call you?" Or could be that she said it out of nervousness/bravado herself.

I'd rather believe and be proved wrong than say I don't believe someone who says they have self-harmed.

I agree with this and I think some of the replies on here are horrible. I felt sorry for her.
Gonnagetgoing · 17/02/2022 09:31

I've only followed Gemma for 2 years - didn't know about her before or just didn't watch anything she was in.

It was very interesting to see her relationship with her mum and her experiences of school. I believe she's a big character and actually a talented dancer but I also think she needs to take some responsibility for what she's done - someone has posted here before that she was a bully at school.

The thing is she's known for being a liar and for stories getting the papers which are based on her life. Her 3.5 stone weight loss etc which is never true.

I'm sorry to say that though I believe some of what she said on this programme last night I don't believe some of it too. As it would've made good TV to elaborate on it.

My DB's goddaughter self-harms and is a complex character.

But GC does seem to want to put a brave face on things and not show her feelings. I'm really torn because she did seem to show the real Gemma last night which is something she hasn't shown for much of her media career so if people think she's lying or stretching the truth now (she's decided to mute/retire her GC character somewhat and let Gemma come out more).

I haven't self harmed myself, but as I said I know people who have soI do feel for them. The self help groups especially the one in Nottingham are great because talking about issues, with others, really helps so well done to Gemma for that.

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Gonnagetgoing · 17/02/2022 09:34

@whysoserious123

Haven't watched it but someone has mentioned Gemma has no scaring but I always thought anything a person does to themselves that is damaging Is self harm . Putting themselves down, Over/under/restrictive eating , starvation, alcohol/drug abuse, sexually reckless, ruining relationships,cutting themselves not always where people can see the list goes on . Everyone has insecurities and I'm sure it must be hard to deal with nasty comments all the time with being a curvy woman who's famous as society expect wan to be a certain way. So maybe she's genuine maybe she isn't but I'm sure everyone at some point in their life will struggle with their be no real health.
@whysoserious123 - I've had periods of being sexually reckless and recreational drug abuse but I wouldn't call it self harm but maybe insecurities. I did put myself down a lot when I was about 10-12 years (people commented) but I'd had a stammer and was targeted in primary school for a year by a nasty teacher.
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PinkArt · 17/02/2022 11:00

I just can't see anyone lying about self harming like that. It's (I find) mortifying to admit to doing it. It's seen as 'a teenage girls problem', attention seeking, weird. It's something people are incredibly uncomfortable talking about.

Eating disorders, substance abuse etc I think people can find a bit more relatable as most people have had a 'he dumped me so I ate a tub of ice cream' day, or an 'I was really stressed after work and chucked back some red wine' night. The extreme of those is more relatable as a way to take the edge off your feelings. But few people can relate to cutting, burning, hitting yourself if they haven't done it. To be the one putting your head over the parapet like that is very brave.

PinkArt · 17/02/2022 11:01

@LoveMySituation Flowers