DANCING ON ICE

[jenk1]

anyone know when this starts and who is in the line up?

i think i read that Gareth Gates and Linda Lusardi might be in it but apart from that i dont know anyone else.

[MummyPenguin]

-quick hijack guys, sorry-

Hi 3andnomore. Well, my DS1's cleft wasn't a straightforward cleft, it's what's called 'neuromuscular dysfunction'. It's more to do with the muscles within the soft palate than the hard palate. Yes, he still has the nasal twang, particularly on the 'S' sounds. He had three operations between the ages of 3 and 5 (he's 9 now.) The first two ops were to 'bridge a gap' where his soft palate wasn't closing off properly against the rear of the throat. These didn't work properly, so the surgoen had to do the operation that he didn't really want to do as it's quite artificial, it involved stitching the muscles within the soft palate to the rear wall to acheive that closure. This was successful, but hasn't been a 'magic wand' as he still has a few sound problems. He's still having nasal emissions too I think. He's been discharged from outpatients/check ups, so I guess he's just going to have to stay as he is, which isn't too bad at all, just the sneaky 'S' sound.

My DS2 has had speech problems too, it was thought that he had the same as DS1 but on investigation, it turns out not, and his speech problems have responded well to speech therapy.

Interestingly, I had a straightforward hard palate cleft when I was born. Had one op at a year old, lots of speech therapy once I was talking and all was well. I too sound nasally though, particularly on answerphones, I hate speaking on answerphones, or video or anything like that. I didn't have the hare lip, my Mum says when I was born it looked like that was going to develop in the womb, but didn't, as I had a dark red mark across my top lip which lasted quite a long time but faded gradually. I don't think I knew about your cleft, perhaps I did (my memory ) that's interesting. Have any of your DC had it? It can be hereditary can't it?

[MummyPenguin]

By the way, think DOI is repeated on Sunday morning.

[MummyPenguin]

I agree about Linda's hair. Also Tim's partner, what was going on with hers?

I'm not surprised that Samantha went out, her routine was very sloppy, although I know she's got a hamstring injury so perhaps that's why.

I love that Aggie's getting through each week. I think the public are keeping her in to piss Jason off. Also she's likeable.

[3andnomore]

More Hi-Jack, sorry
Mummy, oh do you have what is called a Forme Fruste cleft lip (Like Jaoquin(sp?) Phoenix).
I am pretty sure that my ms (the one on BB) may had this "lucky" escape....because he looks like he has got a scar, but he hasn't, iykwim...did take him to see the specialist in Bristol, just in case...because sometimes it can be in the need of surgery, if the muscle tissue hasn't closed properly....but he didn't need that, and the specialist wasn't quite sure if it was a very mild case of forme fruste or if it is just some sort of assymetry (however, as he is growing up more and more, his nose does also look a little bit uneven and very rounded...but he is fine so, no point to worry about it!)
The reason I thought you might know that I do ahve a bilateral cleft lip/palate is, because I know you watched The BB programme....and obviously I had a little appearance there (shudder...absolutely gruesome to watch myself....I really notice then how my face/mouth movements do look a bit odd, etc... and as for listening to my own voice...HATE it)

[MummyPenguin]

No, I don't have the Forme Fruste. Haven't heard of that. My top lip looks completely normal so I guess I was very lucky. I don't think I saw your appearance on the BB programme.

I realised last night that I did a complete spoiler over who went out of DOI. Sorry about that!!

[3andnomore]

well, Yannic must have been taking all your attention (by BB I mean, obviousdly Baby Borrower, not Big Brother....lol)

[Immaculateconception]

Please oh please let Aggie go tonight. She's bloody hopeless!

[WestCountryLass]

Poor Aggie, her music was terrible and she can't skate for toffee. I am sure she expects to go.

I am loving Chris!

[MaryAnnSingleton]

I shouldn't say it, as an older woman ,but I did find Aggie a bit embarrassing...

[3andnomore]

lol Mary

well, Aggie went, and indeed what terrible song choice? I mean, come on get real...even worse because she didn't choose it herself...otherwise they might have the good sense to do it as a "take the piss" version...which would have suited her skating skills.

I thought Gareth Gates looked much nicer yesterday with his hair the way he had it...

[MummyPenguin]

If I was Aggie I would have wanted to go and I'm sure she's relieved she did. Chris is fab, yes. I also like the new girl Zarrah - apparently bitter rivalry between her and Suzanne. I like Suzanne too, she's good.

[3andnomore]

I think Jason made a very good point about all those "lurvely" viewers that voted to keep her in being actually quite sadistic....lol...

Zaarah seems to be quite a natural, but I do like Suzanne...and looking at Chris, whilst I realise that Ice Dancing and Ice Hockey are very different sprts, surely it is a great advantage that he already has a very good skating ability and confidence on the ice...he did a very good routine, though, I thought....

[bossybritches]

I LOVED that Rocky Horror routine!!

(ok just caught up in time for tomorrow show!! )

Is it me or is Greg R impossibly gangly & uncoordinated?

[MaureenMLove]

No one want to comment on that Head Banger move then? Jeez, the things you do to get back in the spot light!

[bossybritches]

I'm still reeling from watching it Maureen sheeze it was close!!!

I LOVED LOVED LOVED Chris' routine- that spin was un-ber-lieveable.

Thought they all were great tonight although Greg,Tim & Steve are defo in line for the skate-off.

[MaureenMLove]

Oh yes! I gasped like the first time I saw the lift in Dirty Dancing at that spin! Tim to go tonight I think.

[Denny185]

Well goodbye Tim - no surprise there tonight.

OMG go Chris go, hes going to be better than Kieran was last year (much as it pains me to say it)by the end, he's fab.

[bossybritches]

He's really exceeded my expectations -he's a natural.

[Denny185]

I know wonder what he will do next week????

[bossybritches]

Apparently he's played ice hockey for years which explains his confidence on the ice- he can concentrate on the dancing not just staying upright like the others!!

[amidaiwish]

Tim was on GMTV this morning and made a good, albeit slightly bitchy, point. He said "the true spirit of the competition is about getting people who cannot skate and watch them improve over the weeks". What a dig at Chris! I know what he means though, it does seem slightly unfair.

[bossybritches]

Yes I guess he has a point -but there must be a limited amount of z-list celebrities willing to take on a challenge like that! The Jungle is one thing but this.....

[MamaG]

I thought "desperado" when I saw suzanne shaw do that headbanger thing - she's obviously DESPERATE to get into the spotlight

[bossybritches]

Yes she's really pushing butI think she's enjoying it too- they're all so competitive!

[unknownrebelbang]

I think Chris and Frankie are really entertaining, but I do think Tim has a point.

Also think Suzanne is v good, but Zaraah's arrival has raised the stakes for her.