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Dalgleish

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Clawdy · 04/11/2021 22:16

Anyone watching it? Quite intriguing, read the book years ago, but can't remember the story! I love Bertie Carvel but he's not quite the gentle troubled poet who is Dalgleish in the books. Interesting to see how it develops though.

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HarrisonStickle · 05/11/2021 23:49

Mgt Thatcher became leader of the Tories in 1975.

Redshoeblueshoe · 05/11/2021 23:56

Yes Harrison she did, that's why I didn't understand it. When I heard Thatcher's name I double checked, because to me this felt like the 50's, not the 70's.

Cocolapew · 06/11/2021 00:00

Why did it feel like the 50's Redshoeblueshoe?

Clawdy · 06/11/2021 08:11

I did think the guilty matron looked a bit young to have been 19 during the war. Even if it was right at the end of the war, she would be about 50.

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HarrisonStickle · 06/11/2021 09:08

The actress is 52 I think, so about the right age.

ancientgran · 06/11/2021 09:27

@Cocolapew

Why did it feel like the 50's Redshoeblueshoe?
Can't answer for Redshoeblueshoe but for me I remember the 50s and I remember the 70s and it seemed more like the 50s.

The loco parentis about adults was really odd, would have been appropriate in the 50s when you didn't reach the age of majority till 21 but by the 70s we were adults at 18.

In the mid 70s police officers were paid a pittance, after Edmund Davies they had massive pay increases, most police officers I knew in 1975 had very clapped out old cars because they couldn't afford anything else, the ones with kids were on supplementary benefits (the UC of the day) but both the police officers in this had nice cars. I will admit I know next to nothing about cars and don't know what the cars in the programme were.

I worked in a police station in the 70s, the Sergeant seemed more like a leftover from a war time spiv than a detective in the 70s, just my experience.

Although it seemed a very country setting the officers were from the Met so I assume this was meant to be on the edge of London? So not some remote backwater.

Think about the Swinging 60s and then this setting, it seems like life went backwards.

Just felt wrong to me, enjoyable but didn't feel like the 70s.

Cocolapew · 06/11/2021 16:07

Thanks that's really interesting ancientgran Smile, were you in the police? I didn't realise they were so badly paid.
I think Daglish had a fancy car because he had extra income due to his poems being published. The Sgt(?) had a Capri which was probably accurate, it was the boy racer car of the 70's and he was single with, presumably no children.
I presumed they were sent there from London because of the MP coming into the private wing and the big wigs wanted it cleared up.

ancientgran · 06/11/2021 18:36

I was a civilian but worked in several police stations and with various squads.

Single officers were actually quite hard up as up to a certain age, can't remember what it was, they only got half the rent allowance. Officers often lived in a police house but if not they got a rent allowance of a set amount. The Sgt might have been old enough for the full allowance which would have made a difference.

If it was out of the Met area there would have been uproar in my experience. I remember an accident on a junction where a car was hit in my force area but ended up across the road over the border into another police area. Big argument about whose case it was. Similar happened when I worked with the vice squad, one of "our" prostitutes was picked up, murdered and her body found in a neighbouring force area. My force claimed as she was from our force area and picked up in our force area the murder was our to investigate, the other force disagreed. In the end the investigation was run by us but we had some of their detectives working with us. Madness to anybody outside but they were very territorial. The Protection Squad would explain met officers being in another area, they protect royalty and govt ministers but I don't know if Dalgleish was supposed to be with them.

Officers were badly paid, Edmund Davies recommended nearly 50% increase for some officers. The other big change was police women getting equality with the men, although I did know some who didn't like it. A bit of a pay rise and suddenly doing full night shifts and riot control didn't appeal to everyone.

Happy days.

Platax · 06/11/2021 23:44

The original book was published in 1971, so I suspect so far as P D James was concerned it was set in the 60s. They should really have left it there.

ancientgran · 07/11/2021 08:34

Oh that is interesting. I though 50s but 60s at a push. Given it was published in 1971 she probably started writing it in the late 60s, books don't get finished, proofed and printed in five minutes.

User5632986 · 07/11/2021 17:43

Just watching now on catch up, his car was J reg from 1970 but it did seem a bit older in parts

DaisyandSimeon · 08/11/2021 20:34

@Clawdy

Bertie Carvel is 44, but he does look older. One thing I found improbable was the fact that the dead nurse had been used as a test for the other student nurses. I'm sure even in the early seventies that would not have been allowed, another student pushing a tube down her throat. Even without the poison, she could have been hurt!
My mother says this did happen
Clawdy · 12/11/2021 08:29

Anyone watching this week's? Think 1975 was mentioned. Some interesting characters in this one.

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ancientgran · 12/11/2021 09:36

I had a bad day yesterday, couldn't sleep well with it all going round in my head, so I started to watch it but just couldn't get into it. I'll watch it when I'm feeling better. Was it any good?

Clawdy · 12/11/2021 22:50

The ending was a bit unlikely, rather disappointing. Liked the atmosphere and acting, though.

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Cocolapew · 13/11/2021 21:32

I enjoyed but preferred the first one. It's nice to have a series set in different places. I do like Steven Mackintosh.

Saucery · 14/11/2021 20:05

I preferred the 2 nd one, but the adverts are really jarring me out of the story. I know I’ve been spoilt by Netflix etc, but Kevin The Fucking Carrot and Oral B have taken the tension out of it.
Like the way the titles change colour and location.

Oblomov22 · 02/01/2022 22:34

Loving it more and more each episode.

Oblomov22 · 02/01/2022 22:36

This weeks, with the MP who died in the Church, Dalgleish's car tax said 1976.

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