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Doctor Who Series 13 -- social media outage???

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Perroquet · 08/10/2021 21:23

I've been following Twitter eagerly for the release date of Doctor Who series 13 (Jodie Whittaker's last!) and suddenly today all Doctor Who social media websites (Facebook, Instagram, etc) are blank, not just Twitter! Is this a "prank" marketing strategy on the part of BBC to herald the release of series 13? Or have Daleks been messing with the internet? Wink

Any BBC insiders here who might shed some light?

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BarbaraManatee · 10/11/2021 00:24

I've been doing some research & have concocted a theory that Swarm, Azure & Passenger are Osiris, Isis & Horus of ancient Egyptian mythology. One of them Azure, I think made a reference to their names being translations & maybe not entirely accurate ones. Azure comes from a French mistranslation of an Arabic word which means lapis lazuli, a stone which the Egyptians believed each small piece of held a tiny part of Isis' soul.

Isis' brother and husband was Osiris, God of the afterlife. One of Osiris' titles was "Foremost of the Domain of the Bee" - Swarm.

In the myth, Osiris was killed by his brother & Isis, his sister/wife, brought him back to life & they had Horus. Horus was the falcon-headed god & in falconry a passenger is "a young hunting bird that can fly and is taken while it is still in its first year", according to the Wiktionary page for passenger!

Together, Osiris, Isis & Horus make the main holy triad of Egyptian mythology. "We are three."

Of course, this could all be clutching at straws & nothing whatsoever to do with the story, but the comment about their names being translations intrigued me! Of course, the Moirai/Atropos link is Greek rather than Egyptian... But then there were supposed to be 3 Fates, not the 6 featured & Atropos was one of them, not the name of the temple but Doctor Who is just fiction & I really shouldn't expect it to adhere precisely to myths that the writers might choose to reference!

I do still want to know why Vinder said it couldn't be the Temple of Atropos - it seemed like he was familiar with the concept at least!

Perroquet · 10/11/2021 14:13

@BarbaraManatee

I've been doing some research & have concocted a theory that Swarm, Azure & Passenger are Osiris, Isis & Horus of ancient Egyptian mythology. One of them Azure, I think made a reference to their names being translations & maybe not entirely accurate ones. Azure comes from a French mistranslation of an Arabic word which means lapis lazuli, a stone which the Egyptians believed each small piece of held a tiny part of Isis' soul.

Isis' brother and husband was Osiris, God of the afterlife. One of Osiris' titles was "Foremost of the Domain of the Bee" - Swarm.

In the myth, Osiris was killed by his brother & Isis, his sister/wife, brought him back to life & they had Horus. Horus was the falcon-headed god & in falconry a passenger is "a young hunting bird that can fly and is taken while it is still in its first year", according to the Wiktionary page for passenger!

Together, Osiris, Isis & Horus make the main holy triad of Egyptian mythology. "We are three."

Of course, this could all be clutching at straws & nothing whatsoever to do with the story, but the comment about their names being translations intrigued me! Of course, the Moirai/Atropos link is Greek rather than Egyptian... But then there were supposed to be 3 Fates, not the 6 featured & Atropos was one of them, not the name of the temple but Doctor Who is just fiction & I really shouldn't expect it to adhere precisely to myths that the writers might choose to reference!

I do still want to know why Vinder said it couldn't be the Temple of Atropos - it seemed like he was familiar with the concept at least!

This is an impressive bit of research indeed, wow! I am familiar with Greek mythology and understood the Atropos and Mouri-Moirai connection but I didn't consider any Egyptian connection to the baddies. You should post this on the official Doctor Who Reddit and Twitter pages to claim full credit, should they actually reveal your theory to be correct!
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Rummikub · 14/11/2021 23:52

That was great research !

BarbaraManatee · 15/11/2021 00:13

"What do you want?"
"To reign in hell."

Oh, y'mean, like Osiris, god of the underworld...? Grin

Idontknowhowtohelpher · 15/11/2021 16:43

I found this episode over complicated and confusing - I am hoping it will all come together soon. I was pleased to see the return of Jo Martin though, she is so good!

Perroquet · 16/11/2021 15:44

@Idontknowhowtohelpher

I found this episode over complicated and confusing - I am hoping it will all come together soon. I was pleased to see the return of Jo Martin though, she is so good!
I agree, this episode was hopelessly confusing. Who was in whose timeline/timestream? And which timelines were past and which were future? If everyone was hiding everyone in their own timestream, why were the actual other people (like Vinder's boss, the Doctor's Division team) in their timestream being replaced by the the present-day Tardis team/Doctor?
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Idontknowhowtohelpher · 23/11/2021 16:28

I remember when a new episode of Doctor Who would practically fill a thread! And the announcement of the New Year's Day festive special guests would have caused great excitement! (Looks round at tumbleweed...)

Perroquet · 25/11/2021 16:47

Just caught up on the latest episode (Village of the Angels). Finally a proper, scary episode! And no crazy jumping from one unknown place/time/imagination stream to another like last week's confusing episode. The weeping-angel-induced time travel was confined to the same village, two well-defined years (1901 and 1967) in the past. Much easier to follow, more focused and more captivating.
SPOILER ALERT:

The Doctor turns into a Weeping Angel at the end!!!!!!!

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