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User135644 · 16/09/2021 13:03

This is on Channel 4 tonight at 9 (and steaming on All 4 now). Set in a care home last year with Jodie Comer and Stephen Graham.

Just watched it, it's an excellent drama. Jodie is incredible.

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Sylvvie · 17/09/2021 16:47

By the way, the situation in healthcare hasn't improved at all. NHS bosses, care bosses/companies and government learned exactly fuck all.

We are still being shat on from all angles.

SunShinesBrightly · 17/09/2021 19:50

Watching now. Brilliant actors. It’s a harrowing drama. I say drama but this has been the reality in Care homes over the past year. Very upsetting to watch. 😥

SunShinesBrightly · 17/09/2021 19:56

This is why people are leaving in droves. We had zero appreciation except "free pizza that one time" and people clapping on their doorstep (ironically, standing next to Vote Tory signs in one neighbourhood I walked through to work). Plus, a lot of our EU nursing staff are leaving due to Brexit so thanks Boris!

EXACTLY this.
I didn’t join in with my Tory neighbours banging their fucking pots and pans and setting up speakers and microphones for neighbourly karaoke Thursdays.
It was a disgrace.
Down the road the hospital and care home staff we being shat on.

The whole thing was a huge slap in the face for healthcare. Now we have antivax idiots and people not wearing masks even though our Trust still mandates them because people think they know better.

People are idiots. Selfish ignorant idiots.

ineedsun · 17/09/2021 22:27

People conflating the NHS and care homes are missing the point. These services, staff and residents were treated differently by everyone, they had barely any PPE, they were forced to take covid positive patients from NHS hospitals without the PPE or access to medical support to care for them or keep them safe. No one thought about them, they didn’t get any recognition, no early shopping slots or free pizzas and to top it all they got the blame when people died.

They get paid a fraction of what statutory services pay, many worked for days and nights on end without a break and still they’re viewed as lesser than NHS staff in many ways.

I have nothing but praise for the people who made this and acted in it, but it wasn’t another NHS tribute, it was about care home residents and staff and rightly so.

SunShinesBrightly · 18/09/2021 07:40

ineedsun The drama made that very clear.

From the failed 999 call to the arrive of men in hazmat suits.
It also made it clear that the NHS system failed MANY people during lockdown and many NHS staff are brutally aware that the system was (is) totally inadequate.

The drama most definitely wasn’t an NHS tribute.

ineedsun · 18/09/2021 08:13

I agree, it’s this thread which prompted that comment

EvilPea · 18/09/2021 09:09

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-58589219.amp
This hasn’t had nearly enough news coverage

ineedsun · 18/09/2021 09:59

Heartbreaking @EvilPea and sadly not surprising. We are a healthcare family, DD worked in ICU throughout and DH manages a care home. He’s had many times that he hasn’t been able to come home for days on end because of staffing shortages and health crises that they can’t get any medical support for.

I’m unbelievably proud of both of them, DD struggled but got praised daily by the media and general public, got gifts, weekly claps and now a concert. DH was blamed when people died because they didn’t have the equipment and was criticised because he refused to support a blanket DNAR on his residents.

I’m so pleased that people can see the reality in this drama (shame about the end bit), and I just want people to understand that the experience that care homes had was very different to that of the NHS, which is why it is important to me that people don’t start talking about NHS experience in relation to this drama.

EvilPea · 18/09/2021 10:05

I’m so sorry,It’s so shit. But also thankful for people like your DH

I’ve had family in care homes and have seen how much and well the staff cared for them.
We lost one at the start of covid, when it wasn’t believed to be in care homes. I was sceptical of that at the time, more so now.

ineedsun · 18/09/2021 10:35

@EvilPea

I’m so sorry,It’s so shit. But also thankful for people like your DH

I’ve had family in care homes and have seen how much and well the staff cared for them.
We lost one at the start of covid, when it wasn’t believed to be in care homes. I was sceptical of that at the time, more so now.

Thankyou, I think just feeling seen is important for them so your words mean a lot
Xtraincome · 18/09/2021 11:13

Loved the way it was filmed. Like we were standing by helpless as Kenny was unwell and she desperately recruited a dementia patient at 3am for help! I wanted to jump in and assist- major anxiety scene that lasted 20 minutes with the 111 hold shtick going on the background.

Excellent film!

Crinkle77 · 18/09/2021 15:40

@Travelledtheworld

just watched this. Excellent in every respect. But did just Google L54 to see if it was a genuine postcode and it isn't.
No but it was filmed at an old care home in L31
Humpthree · 18/09/2021 20:52

How anyone can vote Tory after watching that...

User135644 · 18/09/2021 22:45

@Humpthree

How anyone can vote Tory after watching that...
We get what we vote for. That's what stuck out.
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SunShinesBrightly · 18/09/2021 23:00

We get what we vote for. That's what stuck out.
We are lumbered with what other people voted for.
Unbelievably an NHS nurse acquaintance of mine proudly displays a Conservative candidate board outside her house every election. I’m starting to think she’s a bit thick.

RunningOnFumes · 19/09/2021 10:26

I watched last night - the acting was so good. Brilliantly directed too.
Quite liked the ending! The gear change half an hour from end was a bit jarring while watching it, but it sort of made sense thinking about it afterwards.

God it’s terrible how care homes were treated isn’t it… keep thinking about the scene where she’s trying to get the ambulance, all alone in her bin bag. Heartbreaking.

JacquelineCarlyle · 19/09/2021 11:21

I enjoyed the end too. The whole thing was just so sad.

Found Angela Griffin strange in it as she never seemed to be properly in focus but was totally recognisable by her voice! I guess it was deliberate that only Jodie and Stephen were fully in focus but it did feel like Angela Griffin was trying to hide in a way & I found that distracting.

Droite · 19/09/2021 17:01

This really needs to be shown in the run-up to every election for the next few years. When we heard Hancock smugly proclaiming that they had put a protective ring around care homes, the blatant lying that has been going on was really driven home.

Ihopeyourcakeisshit · 19/09/2021 19:44

What a disappointment, great start but a total waste of a sterling cast and opportunity with its daft story line change.

VolcanicEruption · 19/09/2021 19:53

It was a harrowing story and have a niece who works night shift in a care home she did contract covid at one point but she loves her work.

How many are clapping for NHS now as they can’t get GP appointments and the ensuing hospital care required. I have already gone private for an issue.DH & I have also had private dental care.

OnTheNatureOfDaylight · 19/09/2021 20:00

Jodie was amazing in this. She is very talented.

Newchallenge · 19/09/2021 20:08

I agree with many of your points. The proning scene made me cry; as others have said I didn't live the ending but kind of understand that Jodie's character might act like that. As an ICU nurse it's really made me feel for my care home colleagues Flowers who must have felt alone and forgotten.

escapeyou · 19/09/2021 20:16

I thought it was fantastic….right until the last 30-40 minutes. I just feel the ending was wasted.

Redyellowblue34 · 19/09/2021 20:36

Disappointed. Thought it should have been much more hard hitting. On night shift on her own and no other resident needing attention was unrealistic. I can imagine that the ultimate stress of being short staffed is the unrelentless needs of people that cannot be met and witnessing their distress.

Honeyroar · 19/09/2021 23:08

I’ve just watched the second half. It kind of fizzled out, didn’t it. I wanted to know what happened to them both. But the first half was very moving and emotional.