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NotTheFunKindOfFeminist · 13/06/2021 21:04

I was looking forward to this, but it's all been a bit amateur so far...

The lighting is terrible!

Hopefully they can iron out over the next few days.

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NotTheFunKindOfFeminist · 13/06/2021 21:06

Dan Wooton is coming across as a bit of a pantomime villain

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heretohelpGB · 13/06/2021 21:23

Was really looking forward to it but finding Dan Wooten hard to listen to. They are supposed to be open to different opinions but are trying hard to shutdown the opinion of Benjamin who is pro-lockdown. Was hoping for more debate and not just forced opinions of the opposing viewpoint.

littlebillie · 13/06/2021 21:24

I've just been listening, it's sounds frenetic and they are all trying too hard.

NotTheFunKindOfFeminist · 13/06/2021 22:04

I'm watching on the app. The audio and video seem out of sync?

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JamieFrasersBigSwingingKilt · 14/06/2021 00:01

Definitely a few teething problems but I liked their ethos and I'm definitely going to try watching more. Anything to avoid the doom and gloom of the 10 o'clock news on BBC. I really respect Andrew Neil so am looking forward to them hitting their stride.

steakandcheeseplease · 14/06/2021 12:15

I caught some of this last night. Yes Dan was a bit shouty but not sure if that was due to the sounding as it seemed off. I was really surprised at Benjamin been shouted down as tbh normally the 'most woke man in the UK' has centre stage.

Its about time the BBC and Sky are challenged. I'm really hoping GB News can really pull the rug out from under them. Its no surprise that ITN/BBC/Sky are now hindering GB News access to the shared pool of material that they all share between themselves. Is it fear of competition or not wanting some one else to sing from a different hymn sheet?

But yes - its about time some one starting broadcasting different views. I'll be watching in the mornings, I just hope they put a regular news brief segment on .

Scrambledcustard · 14/06/2021 22:30

I've just been watching it. Its going to have a lot of people a frothing! Terrible sound issues though!

willstarttomorrow · 14/06/2021 22:40

Not watched it but seen the clips for the odious little toad Wooten being put in his place by Alan Sugar which is TV gold. Time will tell, but at the moment the USP seems to be the tv equivalent of LBC, so not really a rival to any serious news output.

SpindleWhorl · 14/06/2021 22:47

@Scrambledcustard

I've just been watching it. Its going to have a lot of people a frothing! Terrible sound issues though!
I've turned in both days out of curiosity.

Unfortunately the sound, as you say, is terrible - and there doesn't appear to be the option of subtitles.

Can anyone else switch subtitles on?

MrsFin · 14/06/2021 22:48

I'm a bit Hmm at it being called GB news though, as "GB" excludes Northern Ireland. Unless they are not reporting on Northern Irish news (I'm sure they will).

SpindleWhorl · 14/06/2021 22:50

They were reporting from outside Stormont yesterday, I recall, @MrsFin.

Susie477 · 14/06/2021 23:02

GB News have correctly identified a gap in the market for a news outlet which includes a much more diverse and inclusive range of voices and opinions and isn’t completely dominated by a metropolitan liberal world view. I wish them well.

The channel has been a complete shambles so far, though. The sound & picture quality is a total mess, the sets are horrible, the content is dull and it all just looks & sounds amateurish. They obviously launched before they were ready and they need to sort themselves out, because nobody is going to keep watching if they don’t.

MrsFin · 14/06/2021 23:03

I'd be a bit pissed off if I was from NI. Same with all the "Team GB" stuff at the Olympics.

SpindleWhorl · 14/06/2021 23:07

@MrsFin

I'd be a bit pissed off if I was from NI. Same with all the "Team GB" stuff at the Olympics.
Yes, that fucks me right off, too. It's GB&NI.

@Susie477 That seems like a fair review!

SpindleWhorl · 14/06/2021 23:15

It's just contributers talking over each other now.

stumbledin · 15/06/2021 15:13

It has nothing to do with news, it is just another load of pointless people talking complete rubbish.

As it is Sky News made BBC stop reporting news and getting in a load of empty headed non entities. Who all go from one channel to another, and say the same stupid things over and over again.

And now in response to GB news Sky had cut is actually news at around 11pm and has more idiots talking absolute piffle.

We need a channel that gives us the actual news, and then we can talk about it with our friends, family, mumsnet or who ever.

Worst of all it makes this people who get invited on to drone on their inane waffling to start thinking the news is about them and what they did or didn't say.

And then they turn round and say twitter is just awful, all these people who just saying stuff. Never accepting that they are the ones who started this down ward spiral.

It makes me think of the film Idiocracy which I watched by mistake. Only it is going to be the future it is going to be now.

SpindleWhorl · 15/06/2021 18:04

I'm watching it again. Michelle Dewberry ('Dewbs & Co') is absolute crap, but at least I can hear her. I suppose she may grow on me.

Most of them are inaudible and muffled, like they've got their microphones either off or stuffed down inside pockets. So amateurish in Day 3.

I read on Twitter that advertisers are pulling out.

ResIpsaLoquiturInterAlia · 15/06/2021 19:12

I am open minded and curious. I tend to read very widely from woke to left field to get a whole market approach. Therefore FT as well Bloomberg, RT as well Fox, CGTN as well as SCMP and Straits Times, Guardian as well as Telegraph and even Daily Mail.

I find ABC Australia, Airiang, CBC, CNA, DW, Airiang, France 24 and NHK a good mix and interesting from different geographical viewpoints. Trust your own judgement and look behind the headlines and indeed between the lines and English language Murdoch media sources.

Social media is just polarised toxicity and should have a headspace trigger warning for some of the real fake news and made up agenda post woke crap that can’t make it to any major platform irrespective of political spectrum.

I am not persuaded by cancel culture either as maybe I will think about supporting those victimised corporates who dare advertise widely including GB News. Despite the amateur roll out I will give GB News another go before I dismiss it as a insignificant new player in a saturated and evolving news media marketplace.

I am not a journalist or investigator for information in case you are wondering. Knowledge is a good thing and never (usually) cause any harm. Ignorance however can be fatal. Stay open minded and analytical to question more!

Longtalljosie · 15/06/2021 19:16

It just goes to show what all the people that the DM froth about the BBC hiring to produce 24 hour news - producers, studio managers, lighting engineers, directors - actually do. You don’t notice it until it’s done badly!

augustusglupe · 16/06/2021 13:58

I wanted it to be good and so far I'm disappointed. I quite like the presenters but most seem amateur, out of their depth. Coupled with all the sound problems, I turned off this morning. Hope it finds its feet but I'm not sure.

snowballer · 17/06/2021 17:29

It's hilariously bad. See this wonderful Twitter account for the full glory of the never ending problems.

https://twitter.com/gbnewsfails?s=21

FredBlankenship · 16/07/2021 17:56

[quote snowballer]It's hilariously bad. See this wonderful Twitter account for the full glory of the never ending problems.

[[https://twitter.com/gbnewsfails?s=21]][/quote]
Its all gone wronger this week! If that could be possible....:

"GB News, a free-speech-centred UK news channel that launched just last month, has reportedly taken one of its hosts off air “indefinitely” for taking a knee “rejecting racism” on his show.
According to The Guardian, which spoke to unnamed sources at GB News, presenter Guto Harri has been “indefinitely taken off air” after he upset many viewers of the news channel by controversially taking the knee on Tuesday.

Harri’s decision to take the knee caused such a storm that a subsequent boycott resulted in some GB News shows receiving zero viewers this week. Because of this, GB News management “felt the need to cut Harri loose,” The Guardian reported.

Unnamed friends of the television host told the newspaper that GB News is “becoming an absurd parody of what it proclaimed to be” by “not defending free speech and combatting cancel culture,” and instead “replicating it on the far right.”

They argued that Harri did not breach any editorial standards and instead was “sacked for offending the lynch mob.”

www.rt.com/uk/529396-gb-news-cancels-host/

The funny thing is, in the wake of this, the organisation that collates viewing figures had the the channel scoring ZERO!

Yet a thread on here recently: Questions for white people: what is the problem with "taking the knee" got 1000 posts in 48 hours So you would think they would have been raking in massive numbers with this, as it is such a talking point right now.

FredBlankenship · 22/07/2021 15:28

Viewing figures on the rise now they have drafted in Nigel Farage for a 7-8pm nightly show:

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1465485/GB-news-nigel-farage-new-show-andrew-neil-guto-harri-take-the-knee-quit

JustDanceAddict · 22/07/2021 17:41

[quote FredBlankenship]Viewing figures on the rise now they have drafted in Nigel Farage for a 7-8pm nightly show:

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1465485/GB-news-nigel-farage-new-show-andrew-neil-guto-harri-take-the-knee-quit[/quote]
I can’t think of anything I’d like to watch least.

patkinney · 01/08/2021 02:30

[quote FredBlankenship]Viewing figures on the rise now they have drafted in Nigel Farage for a 7-8pm nightly show:

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1465485/GB-news-nigel-farage-new-show-andrew-neil-guto-harri-take-the-knee-quit[/quote]
He's toxic.

Great article about him and GB News today:

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jul/31/ive-been-watching-nigel-farage-gb-news-so-you-dont-have-to

"Nigel Farage may not be the best-loved emergency service, but as demonstrated by his recent work for GB News, the struggling, consciously patriotic news channel, he is always available, willing to take on jobs most broadcasters wouldn’t touch, and delivers reliably transformative effects.

Two weeks ago, GB News was considered merely unpleasant, unsuccessful and unwatchably amateurish. Now, with its new Farage programme on every day, it looks well placed to be far more intensely and widely disliked, including by those who haven’t seen the channel’s line in impartial headlines – “Cocky Forecasters”, “Freedom Farce” – and now never will. Though, after watching the channel last week, I can’t really think of this as – on their part – a loss.

With his description of the RNLI as a migrants’ “taxi service”, Farage has already supplied his trademark contaminant. The same instinct that saw him blemish, perhaps ineradicably, the reputation of LBC, ensured that what could have been an examination of the current demands on the RNLI shortly descended into a personal attack on a charity that has actually earned national gratitude and affection.

Anyone hoping to out-offend Farage will have to consider going for St John Ambulance or maybe a baby hedgehog sanctuary, Sir David Attenborough having already served his turn. A simple attack on, say, the Church of England, which, of course, Farage does attack, on account of woke bishops, could never have elicited the public reaction when he, near blasphemously and quite falsely, suggested his target was using sly PR tactics (“I wonder if the RNLI used the same PR firm as Harry and Meghan?”) to victimise him.

“So I’m the baddy who’s led to this horrible situation,” Farage said, before reminding his allegedly noble adversaries that Eternal Father Strong to Save would be no help whatsoever against him, Trump’s actual friend, someone who reportedly warbled Hitler Youth songs as a schoolboy: “I’ve fought bigger and uglier than you.” That would show the life-saving bastards.

The revulsion could be measured in record donations to the RNLI and in news stories publicising the arrival of Farage as lead guarantor of offensiveness on GB News.

If that sounds like a minor challenge, Farage’s fellow provocateurs, from whose ranks Andrew Neil has recently disappeared, could confirm that winding up “the woke mob” (as presenter Dan Wootton terms people GB News disagrees with) is not just relentless – with outrage, like wind power, having to be constantly generated – but a good deal more difficult than it looks. Being reliably 100% odious might seem like the simplest thing in the world – slag off Simone Biles, ridicule quotas, net zero, Europeans, etc – but GB News is competing with experienced providers at, for example, the Spectator, the Telegraph and Mail, even at the Times and the BBC, the very outfits the new broadcaster likes to denounce as timidly “mainstream”. What, shock-wise, is left for presenters who must compete with a mainstream-employed contrarian who glories, on Twitter, in a young woman’s death?

GB News is further constrained, if it wants to outdo established irritants such as Giles Coren, Jonathan Sumption or Toby Young, by Ofcom’s rules on “due impartiality”. As much as it might enjoy the occasional attention-drawing reprimand, the news channel is required to offset, say, a climate-crisis denier with a respectable guest, although it elsewhere allows itself considerable freedom, particularly in US coverage. Farage misses his pal Trump and his famous (their ban is omitted) tweets. “We’ve got this guy Biden in,” he lamented last week, during a gloat about Joe Biden’s ratings with Ted Cruz, the anti-abortion Republican, “and now we don’t hear anything.”

Professor Neil Ferguson is another subject on which the presenters run free, with Michelle Dewberry, alumna of TV’s The Apprentice and former pro-Brexit candidate, rubbishing an unrepresented Ferguson and his modelling: “I sit here and I just say, enough.” Additional abuse came from Wootton, who is worth catching at least once for his ability, like a ventriloquist’s wicked doll, to deliver a stream of insults through permanently bared teeth: “The bloke is a charlatan.”

As for “the woke mob”, along with sufferers from a “metropolitan mindset”, it has shown itself unresponsive to most GB News taunting to a degree that might raise doubts about its malign reach and cohesion, were it not that a cowardly refusal to take on Wootton’s grin is precisely what you’d expect from a faction that thinks vaccine passports could be quite a good idea.

It might, however, have been predicted from a poll showing that anti-wokeness, a shibboleth so critical to GB News, seems to be only patchily understood by a public that refuses to organise itself along the tidy lines assumed by Neil when he pledged to “expose the growing promotion of cancel culture for the threat to free speech and democracy that it is”.

As if to confirm this difficulty, the first major cancel crisis at GB News came from within, when it had to cancel itself for letting Guto Harri – previously masquerading as a trusted Boris Johnson apologist! – take a knee. As much as the step must have grieved this broadcaster, a sworn opponent of ideological “echo chambers”, Harri was instantly muted, with the new star, Farage simply re-promising “both sides of every argument”. This no doubt genuine offer still suffers, some viewers may think, from the presenters’ habit of depicting alternative views as the alien property of leftist propagandists or “woketopian snowflakes”, to the point, as above, of declaring war on a non-compliant charity.

Whether most of GB News’s guests – Farage’s have included the Conservatives Ann Widdecombe, Stanley Johnson, Graham Brady, Colonel Bob Stewart – only accidentally endorse, with uncanny regularity, the libertarian attitudinising of their hosts, or it’s just that nobody else will come on, the result threatens neither media echo chambers nor Farage’s trademark rants. On the contrary, those who should surely fear the impact of Farage, the hammer of unnecessary life-saving – with Andrew Neil perhaps having the most reputationally to lose – are those in peril on GB."