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Spoiler thread for ...The Pact BBC one

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the80sweregreat · 18/05/2021 18:15

I Watched episode two today on I player. It
was a bit slow but I'm still intrigued enough to carry on watching it.
I like the dynamic between the women , but Anne's husband does seem a bit dim.

No spoilers allowed at all on the other thread so thought I'd start one!

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the80sweregreat · 20/05/2021 19:40

Nancy wanted to do it though ! She preferred a prison sentence to doing jig saw puzzles with Ade Edmondson or being single living in poverty. It was wrong but I suppose she felt she owed Anne for the blackmail texts etc.

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Cocolapew · 20/05/2021 20:54

I became obsessed with Annas lack of blinking.

AZisgreat · 20/05/2021 20:57

@the80sweregreat

Nancy wanted to do it though ! She preferred a prison sentence to doing jig saw puzzles with Ade Edmondson or being single living in poverty. It was wrong but I suppose she felt she owed Anne for the blackmail texts etc.
Right now she thinks she wants to do it...that's how delusional she is...interesting how she 'led the priest on', then when he responded she withdrew and said sth like 'your actions are what matter'. There was nothing to stop her divorcing Ade lol. She is clearly not quite well and I know it is fictional but how could Max relax in his job knowing what he has allowed to happen? His daughter so lacking in gratitude - 99.9% people would have not let someone else take the blame for them. 100% people would not have reacted the way these characters did. I think BBC drama has lost the plot.
AZisgreat · 20/05/2021 21:22

@Cocolapew

I became obsessed with Annas lack of blinking.
I noticed a lot of bedding from Dunelm!
flaminjo · 20/05/2021 21:33

Finished it

What a pair of fucked up teenagers. Jack could Have been done for statutory rape and child abuse. But no; murder seemed like the easier option

apilaud · 20/05/2021 21:35

I also found it odd how there was 0 anger towards the daughter. Yes, she was a vulnerable young girl (though, from a middle class household with seemingly no problems at home before Jack got his claws in) who he'd bullied and taken advantage of and threatened and I have a lot of sympathy but killing him like that wasn't necessary. It wasn't a case of self-defence. If it were my DD I would support in the long run but I think I'd probably be fuming at first.

RevolvingPivot · 20/05/2021 21:47

I really liked the two actresses with short hair (not Nancy) Lou and the other one. I'd like to see them in something else.

PaulGallico · 21/05/2021 09:45

The actress playing Lou was in Keeping Faith. I enjoyed The Pact - was amazed at the lovely houses (on Brewery and Police wages). I think Nancy became very disolusioned with the priest when she watched him running his hand up and down the back of a woman at the memorial.

Egghead68 · 21/05/2021 10:21

Completely far-fetched, bizarre that people with good standards of living would be working in a factory but a reasonably enjoyable watch.

the80sweregreat · 21/05/2021 12:07

They probably enjoyed the factory environment and the good friends and the friendly banter and I can't imagine there are many jobs around in such a rural place. Arwel was obviously a good employer , it was only when Jack took over that things changed. I can see why they kept going at that place to be honest and wanted their own independence and money outside the home.
Also, as you get older it does become harder to find a job you like and the shifts you want etc ( not saying they were ancient of course, but the workplace and job hunting can be ageist even though they are not meant to be )
I'm clearly overthinking this one!! Lol

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HamAndCheeseToastie5032 · 21/05/2021 12:25

Not all factory workers are on low pay. I work in supply chain and the staff in our (UK) factories are VERY well paid, you would be surprised.

This series kept me entertained in parts, but overall it was a bit bollocks Grin. And everyone knows that in anything on telly, female throwing up = pregnant.

RevolvingPivot · 21/05/2021 13:17

The ending was daft. All the lying and scheming the mum and daughter did and it all magically went away.

ElizabethTudor · 21/05/2021 23:23

Just finished.
Good premise. And I enjoyed it, mainly.
I found Anna really quite annoying though - she was pretty shrieky.
And I bloody hope the daughter has some remorse eventually, given the cluster-fuck she created. But she seemed too self-centred for that, so maybe not!

starsinthegutter · 21/05/2021 23:30

Well that was 6 hours of my life I'm never getting back. Blood ridiculous and what a waste of Eddie Marsden.

ChequerBoard · 22/05/2021 13:09

Watched ep 1 & 2 but got bored with the oh-so-slow story telling that I skipped to watch the final ep last night.

So glad I didn't waste my time watching the middle episodes as I clearly didn't miss anything that mattered.

The final episode really dragged, the big reveal at the start and then lots of hand wringing for the rest of it.

Very lame.

TurquoiseLemur · 22/05/2021 18:22

[quote apilaud]@AZisgreat

I didn't find the characters that believable either. Anna never twigged that the DD may be pregnant despite the fact she's been worried about her rebelling and she's constantly throwing up? Max suggesting they say that Jack raped her in the woods and using the pregnancy as evidence was a stupid suggestion because she already knew she was pregnant by then so would have been too far along for it to wash. The hinting that the son is gay and attracted to Jack was completely pointless, I don't know what they were going for there. Nancy confessing was daft, and the kind of stuff that would only happen in a drama. It doesn't matter how close I am to a friend, you wouldn't catch me doing that.

All in all it was a bit daft but a decent enough story at face value. I can see them doing another series I think. They could explore how the dynamics have changed at the brewery, how that family are coping with Jack's baby and Louie finding out it's her great/niece nephew, and of course it coming out somehow that Nancy wasn't the murderer.[/quote]
Agree with all this. Also, it's no longer possible (for very good reason) to get a murder conviction on the basis of a confession alone. And the police are far more genned up nowadays about why someone might confess to a crime they haven't committed: they'd be grilling Nancy over and over about this, watching for any inconsistencies. They'd also be getting someone to look at her mental health and her personal situation. ("Has this woman been under a lot of stress? Yes. Is she likely to be making odd and drastic decisions? Yes. Is it likely that she is lying in order to protect a friend? Absolutely yes!")

Max is in the police, fgs! Are we really meant to think he'd put himself into the awful position of perverting the course of justice to the extent that he does? Allowing a vulnerable person to carry the can and serve years in prison? And if anyone starts to think that the conviction is odd, which it is, then Max's complicity could and probably would be blown right out of the water.

Anna seemed clueless. As you say, not picking up on her daughter's pregnancy. And also lying about the missing money, telling Max she'd opened another account with higher interest. He could check this out, easily! He saw right through that lie straightaway, as most of us with half a brain would.

CocoNoir · 22/05/2021 23:19

Where were the forensics team in all this, surely there would have been DNA on the dead body.

excelledyourself · 23/05/2021 18:37

@flaminjo

Finished it

What a pair of fucked up teenagers. Jack could Have been done for statutory rape and child abuse. But no; murder seemed like the easier option

Was the daughter under 16?

I couldn't figure out what age the kids were.

Do people think she keeps the baby? I know she said she wanted to, but the ending was odd. Expected it to show the baby or at least her bump, but I wasn't sure how much time was meant to have passed.

Tormundsbeard · 23/05/2021 23:59

I enjoyed it and thought it was better than average. Jason Hughes was believeable.

Don’t think we need a second series though.

eatsleepread · 24/05/2021 10:12

Tamsin was a pain in the tits from start to finish.

Louie's pleather trousers must have been walking themselves to the washing machine by the end Grin

TitsInAbsentia · 25/05/2021 20:50

Why were they constantly saying "i'll get an Uber" why not just a cab or a taxi? BBC got a deal going on?

Xmasbaby11 · 25/05/2021 23:51

I finished it tonight. I did enjoy it but disliked the whole Anna family and they shouldn't have covered for Tamsin. She was only 16 but not vulnerable - seemed confident, had close friends and nice family. I didn't find the family believable generally- Max was far too chilled for a police officer on a murder case and Anna wouldn't still be at a brewery at 40 with teenage kids.

I did like that they didn't try to redeem Jack - there was no other side to him, he was just nasty.

UCOinanOCG · 26/05/2021 11:30

@CocoNoir

Where were the forensics team in all this, surely there would have been DNA on the dead body.
They talked about that. He had been at a party would have DNA from loads of people all over him.
blossomhillx · 26/05/2021 15:41

Just binged it all. Overall thought it was good until the end. Don't genuinely believe that the police would buy Nancy's confession after all that, I understand she felt guilty about taking the money from Anna but taking the blame for the murder is a bit extreme.
Would have liked to see Tamsin held accountable for her actions as PP said she doesn't seem particularly vulnerable or deserving of it. Honestly don't know how Anna would be able to live with herself knowing her best friend is in jail.
Neither Anna or max even seemed that pissed off or disgusted that their teenage daughter was being groomed by jack either. It all got a bit too unbelievable.

VanellopeVonSchweetz99 · 27/05/2021 23:57

Binged it. Agree with everyone above, it really wasn't too bad but also had some major issues, like plot holes and dodgy wigs.
Decent acting made me forgive a lot, Jason Hughes was great.
Spotted quite a few bits from Dunelm yes! Grin