Is anyone else watching the new Room with a View?

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I am loving it. Love Lawrence fox, he is excellent.

was watching, its great, but too tired, and have comeupstairs to check pc.

Am paying a lot less attention now I'm on MN! Never saw the Merchant Ivory version.

Rafe Spall is pretty fab too. Excellent casting.

I'm loving it. Loved it first time around too, but it's many years since I warched it. Dh is enjoyng it too.

I thought it was good. This Lucy is far better than awful footstamping Bonham Carter in the film. And I prefer this George to awful staring crazy faced Julian Sands what a nutter but I liked him at the time.
I don't remember the dying in the war bit from the book. Is that in the book?

I've read the book and saw the film and I can't remember the dying in the war bit. I have a crap memory though.

I enjoyed it. A guilty pleasure of mine.

The dying in the Great War thing is dear Andrew improving a classic novel for us, because EM Forster stupidly left that out for us
He also felt that EM Forster, a closeted by necessity gay academic, didn't make the novel gay enough, so he's added all the clumpy comments about Revd Beebe and Cecil "not being the marrying kind" just in case we hadn't though of it ourselves. Merchant Ivory just let the casting of the wonderful sofa-bottomed Simon Callow as Revd Beebe speak for itself
Pick and mix for me, I've got huge fondness for the old one mainly because I think Daniel Day Lewis and Denholm Elliott were perfect casting and weren't bettered in the new one (I do love Lawrence Fox's voice though, but it made him sound too sexy for Sissle).
But I loved it just the same, the novel is so charming from start to finish, however Andrew Davies attempts to gussy about with it and all the cast were good. Elaine Cassidy is a fine actor but I think she missed Lucy's stifled potential pre-Fiesole, tbh - she looks too smart. Rafe Spall was gorgeous as George though, and Sophie Thompson was perfect as Charlotte

No. I loved the film too much I think. Anyway we watched Joe's Palace which was wonderful.

Didn't watch it, well just a little bit as I love the original film - no one can replace the fabulous Denholm Elliot as Mr Emerson. Can Helena Bonham Carter act though ? it's always bothered me

the dying in the war bit was a Andrew Davies embellishment. Forster's afterword says that George was a conscientious objector in WW1 [hmmm]
The ending (also very AD) suggested she was going to get off with the Italian driver.... very Where Angels Fear to Tread
I did adore Julian Sands in first version esp when he vaulted over the tennis net but I liked the class aspect in this, it worked much better for me

Where Angels Fear To Tread popped into my mind too MyEye. Would Freddy and Minnie (left out of this adaptation I notice) be travelling grumpily to Italy nine months later to take delivery of a motherless baby...
Julian Sands was more physically overwhelming as George but he looked too patrician tbh. Rafe Spall looked more the part class-wise
They'll repeat Joe's Palace ad nauseam OrmIrian

MaryAnn, I'm not sure HBC CAN act. But her luscious vacant walk-like-a-brickie look was so perfect for untapped Lucy. I don't think she's ever been better.

it's just that some of the lines seemed quite awkwardly spoken,if that makes sense - strange emphasis on words here and there...
I absolutely loved Rupert Graves as Freddy in the first film,esp in the pond....

must say, I was grudgingly impressed by LF's boho green-carnation take on Cecil. You could see the attraction more, it had a certain logic.
I found the sex in this version quite screamworthy. I so did not want to see it (though I should have known it was coming)
I agree, HBC was the pefect Lucy. I did have a problem with this pinched-looking person.

I know. Dh and I knew it was coming and were bracing ourselves MyEye
I look deep within and acknowledge my latent faghaggery and my problem with Lawrence Fox really is that gay or not he is far sexier than Rafe Spall and I'd have taken my chances with him regardless
Daniel Day Lewis made Sissle seem like a really crashing mistake...

I daresay Marina. But I still fancied it more. View isn't my favourite of his novels anyway.

ooh, which do you like best OrmIrian. I can't help feeling my liking for A Room with a View is due to what a good film Merchant Ivory made of it...

Howards End is my personal fave though

Same here Marina. I love rereading Howards End.

I have recorded it but not seen it yet.
I had seen the Merchant Ivory version so many times I know it by heart so am steeling myself to watch this one.

There is a lot to enjoy claricebeansmum, honest
Not least the differences between the two versions to savour
In lots of ways it's very successful
I know that my attachment to the original film stems to some extent from being young and in lurve with dh-to-be when we first saw it
Whereas I watched Rafe and Elaine cavort in the poppies while ironing uniform, bickering with dh about paperwork and hacking playdoh out of the carpet etc
A Passage to India is crying out for a remake, the excellent Judy Davis notwithstanding

I wasn't expecting much - I always thought the M-I version definitive, really - but was pleasantly surprised. Not sure Lucy had enough of a presence though. I read somewhere that the the ITV ending was taken from an earlier draft of the novel (although if Forster had wanted to use it, he would've done IMO). I suppose anything set in the Edwardian era has WW1 hanging over it - however did someone say that EMF had George as a Conscientious Objector?

I found the sex cringy too. Really not sure about Rafe's physique!

Howards End seems to be on film 4 every five minutes and I always turn it on at more or less the same bit...

I wasn't expecting to like it as much as the M-I version but ended up almost preferring it. I thought Rafe Spall was very good as George, and Lawrence Fox a more believable Cecil in a lot of ways. The trouble with the DD-L Cecil is that you couldn't see how she could have possibly agreed to marry him in the first place whereas LF is far more plausible.

That's exactly what DH & I were saying last night RosaT. He was much more attractive in some ways. LF I mean. & Julian Sands, though lovely, was too posh.

Howards End is a great film but sooo sad.

I loved the MI version and was quite prepared to hate the ITV adaptation..... but begrudingly thought it was good.
Cecil was far better, although DDL is a great actor I found his portrayal to extreme. I thought Lucy Honeychurch looked a bit too.... well.... modern in the ITV version although agree with the footstamping comment of Helena BC.
Rafe Spall I thought was bang on.

And Lucy's piano playing got on my nerves. No-one looks that fierce when they're playing, not even Beethoven.