Diana, in her own words

[Skipsurvey]

anyone else see this on netflix?
very interesting.
her wedding day was the worst day of her life.

i did not read the book btw

Is this the one where they've released footage of her talking with a therapist or something? I'm sure I've seen it before or somewhere similar and she mentioned she'd only met the Prince of Wales 15 times before they married

We need to keep in mind that this is merely her version of events so it's not likely to be impartial. I find it odd that rational people accept all she said/simpered as fact, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

she does sound rather loopy tbh

it was interesting, not necessarily anti Charles,
more to do with her Bulimia and dreadful childhood

I saw it, after watching The Crown.

I don't believe her I'm afraid. I mean, some of it yes, but most certainly not all.

Noone is that good an actor, you can see her loving the attention while complaining about it. She said PC didn't say anything nice to her after she made that speech in Welsh but the film shows him leaning over smiling and talking to her and smiling with him. It just doesn't ring true.

no, i agree, it didnt sound totally true

did anyone see the bit where Charles was saying publicly what a lovely lady and wife she was and she made a face and caused the audience to laugh!
she seems to be really hard work and not cut out for the job

it does make me worry for William and Harry

Awful woman.
To be fair, she needed training and guidance for the role, which she didn't get.
And she made it clear she loved her sons.
But everything else... no. She showed us up, she let us down, she did long-term damage. Didn't like her at the time. If I see her face now, I want to throw things.

I watched it over the weekend and I was struck by how tearful I became at times. Watching those boys at their mother's funeral... I hadn't seen that footage since the actual day itself. That was heartbreaking.
The whole thing brought me right back to my youth and that palpable memory of how iconic she was. She was, in fact, her own iconoclast.
She was a lovely woman, a woman in pain. And it seems her memory or interpretation of situations didn't always bear resemblance to reality. That said, she knew what time it was when it came to Camilla. I think that caused relentless pain. Her bulimia predated her life with Charles in it, didn't it? But the demands of being a royal exacerbated it. No one came out looking really bad other than the press, imo.

I do think it was six of one and half a dozen of the other with her and Charles. I also suspect they were both in some way lacking in “normal” romantic/friendship skills so it was the blind leading the blind in terms of forming a functional relationship.

I watched it with a few tears in my eyes. Lovely lady and fantastic.mother. Shame she had to live in the shadow of Camilla. Great sadness knowing all the pain she endured!!

did anyone see the bit where Charles was saying publicly what a lovely lady and wife she was and she made a face and caused the audience to laugh! she seems to be really hard work and not cut out for the job

Yes! I don't think she was an awful woman at all. But some of her behaviour was just so unhinged. When you're mentally unwell and bogged down by a crushing depression and eating disorder, everyone is the enemy and you're the victim. I went through a barbaric depression about a decade ago and good god, the world was against me. I was my own worst enemy but I was all I had, in my view. I trusted nobody but I'd blab to anyone who would listen. Really unwell, I was. And my behaviour showed this. She was very, very unwell.

It was so sad because before she died, she finally seemed to just grow up and into herself. I don't think it was the divorce or the freedom as much as it was just Diana, becoming comfortable with herself and beginning to recover from years of mental health issues.
It's so sad that her entire family life was a shambles and that she couldn't make it work with Charles.

Agree it was the blind leading the blind.
at least William was allowed to have a long engagement with Kate.

i remember at the time the press saying it was good she was so young, 19, with no previous boyfriends to come out of the woodwork and sell their stories to the press. Just so very wrong to particularly want to marry a virgin

She quoted a psychiatrist as being really good, listening to her every week. Dr Lipscombe, or something like that

we do need to take the film with a pinch of salt and an open mind

Or that they couldn't make it work, I should say (Charles and Diana). It's just all so sad, the whole thing. She really, really had a special kindness about her. Her work with AIDS patients was extraordinary. If you were around in those times, you'll recall how monumental it was for someone, anyone, but especially a princess, to reach out and hug dying people who were viewed as lepers by society. It's hard to describe how frightening AIDS was to those who did not live in that era. It was devastating! She really shone a light in the darkness for so, so many. That was huge. And this made her remarkable. There is a reason she is iconic. Unfortunately, her mental health, Camillagate, and her untimely death make us lose sight of the important work she did.

I found it sad. She didn't know what she was getting herself into and nobody around her seemed to advise her against it. By the time she claims that she had reservations about Camilla and the spotlight, she was told it was too late. It was practically a forced marriage.

I don't believe I've ever heard of them being advised to have marriage counselling, or counselling for Charles.

@Skipsurvey

did anyone see the bit where Charles was saying publicly what a lovely lady and wife she was and she made a face and caused the audience to laugh! she seems to be really hard work and not cut out for the job

She was a teenager when she was "recruited" and tricked into believing she's was entering a loving marriage.

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Or that they couldn't make it work, I should say (Charles and Diana). It's just all so sad, the whole thing. She really, really had a special kindness about her. Her work with AIDS patients was extraordinary. If you were around in those times, you'll recall how monumental it was for someone, anyone, but especially a princess, to reach out and hug dying people who were viewed as lepers by society. It's hard to describe how frightening AIDS was to those who did not live in that era. It was devastating! She really shone a light in the darkness for so, so many. That was huge. And this made her remarkable. There is a reason she is iconic. Unfortunately, her mental health, Camillagate, and her untimely death make us lose sight of the important work she did.

Yes people forget what she did for the AIDS cause. I remember the shock and the headlines when she shook hands with a man with AIDS. She also saved a huge number of lives with her work with eradicating landmines.

in her family there were all expected to marry into aristocracy

@Skipsurvey

in her family there were all expected to marry into aristocracy

Yes but there's aristocracy and then there's The Prince of Wales. Most aristocrats can still walk round Sainsburys on their own.

There should have been a responsibility on the royal family to better prepare and protect her, or better still Charles should have married Camilla in the first place.

I feel really sorry for Diana but I also feel very sorry for Charles (though let's remember he wasn't forbidden from marrying Camilla, she didn't want to be Princess of Wales). I feel sorry that he was also pushed into a marriage with someone he barely knew, and he also had a miserable childhood with distant parents and being at a boarding school miles from home he absolutely despised.

I watched it and my main thoughts were a lot of it just didn't ring true and she tripped herself up a couple of times.

The two points I noticed most were the bit where she spoke about doing the speech in Welsh - she said PC didn't praise her or say well done, the video clip clearly shows him leaning over to her smiling and saying something and her smiling back. He looked pleased enough with her speech to me and I certainly looked like a little 'well done' conversation going on.

The other one was when she talked about fainting on a public engagement, I'm pretty sure she explicitly said when going on about how PC was totally unconcerned "I've never fainted in my life"... yet earlier when she was talking about having morning sickness when pregnant she talked about vomiting and fainting all the time.

I think her recollection of a lot of events are distorted.

I thought it was pretty shocking the newsreader asked her if she was domineering.

also felt sorry for prince charles.

I watched it and my main thoughts were a lot of it just didn't ring true and she tripped herself up a couple of times.

I felt this too. On the one hand, she seemed to deeply appreciate and be very fond of the people's love. On the other hand, she openly resented it and spoke quite negatively about it while clips on the screen showed her giving affection so freely and, I really believe, genuinely to children/the people who came out to see her.
The lines between the sinister press and the adoring public must have blurred. They must have felt one and the same after a while. Add to that her internal war and well, what a sad state of things really.

She also saved a huge number of lives with her work with radicating landmines.

Yes indeed, glummy! This was truly groundbreaking.