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Toxic Beauty Addicts c4 now - anyone watching this???

21 replies

PinkMartini · 11/10/2007 20:21

OMG - I am so shocked - they are talking about Aveda containing 21 man made chemicals.

The two case studies do seem to be slightly OCD - one has over 60 lipglosses and brushes her teeth six times a day.

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Tottie32 · 11/10/2007 20:23

i am watching very scary stuff

glad i dont clean

Raahh · 11/10/2007 20:34

lol! tottie- me neither!!!

am waiting for the bit about toxins in breast milk...

Lulumama · 11/10/2007 20:36

am skyplussing it... will watch behind a cushion!

notsogummyanymore · 11/10/2007 20:36

considering stopping dying my hair... this may wel sway me

Raahh · 11/10/2007 20:37

am v that Sarah beeny looks great even when PRETENDING to be pregnant!!

Raahh · 11/10/2007 20:39

they have really picked two very vacant looking guinea pigs....i can imagine the traumas if they took away blondies GHDS!!

Raahh · 11/10/2007 20:40

(i mean the make up guinea pigs, btw, not the breast milk ones)

tcmummy · 11/10/2007 20:40

at toxins in breastmilk! Help!

berrybliss · 11/10/2007 20:45

The breastmilk thing has really freaked me out.

tcmummy · 11/10/2007 20:50

My SIL only uses Faith In Nature products because of chemicals in bm.

saggarmakersbottomknocker · 11/10/2007 20:52

I've come to the conclusion that on the whole you need to be loaded if you want to be chemical-free!

rebelmum1 · 11/10/2007 21:01

or smelly, haggady paggady looking with grey hair

saggarmakersbottomknocker · 11/10/2007 21:02

Well I'm that anyway rebelmum. Well not smelly........hopefully.

expatinscotland · 12/10/2007 00:24

better living through chemistry, i say!

i've tried 'alternatives' and they all suck compared to the chemically stuff.

no way i'd want to live wthout my RoC anti-ageing creams.

Flier · 12/10/2007 09:43

I thought there would have been a HUGE thread on this this morning, found this very interesting and it has spurned me on to look at more ethical products, especially washing products.

Gingerbear · 12/10/2007 11:19

but 'natural' products still have chemicals in them. Natural chemicals - only difference.
And some natural chemicals can be dangerous too.

However, I agree that parabens, triclosan and SLS should be avoided - easy to do without spending a fortune on 'natural' alternatives.

3andnogore · 12/10/2007 12:43

Firstly I could not believe the gullability (is that aword) of the people....who believes still that Johnsons is best for Baby products or that simple really is almost natural, or indeed that things sold on the market are all tested and of course save...honestly I was shouting at the TV...are people really THIS naive/stupid?

Was all ready to shout at the TV when it was about bm...and thought that guy that tested the Bm etc...but then it wasn't that bad, and Sarah made sure the point came across that the Benefits of breastfeeding still outway any possible negative effects of those chemical traces in breastmilk.
It's not really new that there are, of course, some chemical traces in breastmilk, but I thought it also showed how quickly you cna get rid of the toxins in your body, so, hopefully it just raises awareness of being more careful with products mums to be/breastfeeding mother use, rather then put people off breastfeeding...

2mum · 12/10/2007 13:01

It was interesting to see how much we are overloading our body with chemicals. The Huggies babywipes thing freaked me out. Well tbh the whole programme freaked me out and i`ll be getting some of that Ecover stuff asap!

rebelmum1 · 12/10/2007 13:22

Yeah I feel spurred on, i tend to use natural cleaning products, washing where poss but have slipped up recently. I bough a small tub of really expensive salt deodrant and it was in a neat tiny pot ideal for travelling ..... only used it a week and lost it.

spokette · 15/10/2007 09:45

Some of you may wish to read some comments on this website called Sense about Science which is an independent charitable trust promoting good science and evidence in public debates. It quite rightly points out some of the misinformation arising from this programme.

Elizabetth · 15/10/2007 16:11

I'm not too impressed with that link.

Gary Moss's complaints about the programme appear to be flawed as much as he claims the programme is.

I didn't see a claim in the programme that women absorb 5lb of cosmetics every year, I think the claim was in a lifetime.

He says "skin irritant" is an unscientific term however the programme was directed at lay people and he doesn't come up with the correct term he thinks they need to use. Cosmetic companies routinely test their products to measure skin irritation, that may not be the scientific term for it but it's certainly the correct way to understand what their methods are trying to achieve.

He says this:

"Domestic cleaning products contain surfactants (similar to soap), and may cause damage to the stratum corneum barrier of the skin. However, because your skin replaces itself very quickly, eight days without exposure to these chemicals is unlikely to make any difference"

Entirely missing the point that the criticism isn't the damage done to the stratum corneum but the fact that because of this damage chemicals can be absorbed into the body. Also he obviously doesn't do much housework because an awful lot of people don't leave it for eight days for their skin to recover. Why do we even need products that cause this level of damage?

Nowhere in his criticisms does he address the main point of the programme, that when we use these products we absorb toxic substances into our blood. Substances which can then be measured scientifically.

I've noticed that the chemical industry PR people have been out in force after this programme, quite surprisingly given that most viewers haven't paid much attention to it. Anybody would think they were trying to shut down public debate.

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