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The Countess and the Russian Billionaire

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purpleme12 · 08/04/2020 21:54

Anyone watching?

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PaulHollywoodsSexGut · 09/04/2020 04:22

Using a defunct Russian title like those sad bastards who were kicked out of Greece, Bulgaria, Romania etc

TBF i do blame her pa for this; it’s a void title with absolutely zero clout as it expired in 1917.

Her mum seemed ok though, I can’t imagine she’s slept easily for the past decade or so.

RickOShay · 09/04/2020 08:29

Good point about the title.

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 09/04/2020 08:35

What channel was that on?

I look at her Instagram occasionally, it's all very pretty.

lazymum99 · 09/04/2020 08:48

I just kept shouting at the tv ‘why has she agreed to do this. WTF is she showing the children for’
When she said she had no money, why the hell did she not sell some of her stuff.
All very odd. There was no reason why she could not have left London and gone with the kids to live in France with the husband.
Oddly I ended up liking the husband more. Not sure why.

lazymum99 · 09/04/2020 08:49

Also has she put all the kids into boarding school while she’s prancing around Russia on horses?

purpleme12 · 09/04/2020 09:42

I wondered what was happening to the Children while she's in Russia too

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MoltoAgitato · 09/04/2020 09:46

Who’s paying the school fees, Norland Nanny salary and posh kids’ clothes if she’s so skint?

Did like the pink jumper with pie crust shirt though.

ILikeyourHairyHands · 09/04/2020 09:48

There was a Times interview with Pugachev linked to in the Telegraph comments section, I thought it was rather illuminating. I've copied it below.

Sergei Pugachev

Commentary on The Times about Alexandra Tolstoy

24/10/2017adminNews,Press Release

Sergei Pugachev gave a comment to the correspondent of The TimesDavid Brown.

Sergei Pugachev:

– Ms Tolstoy had a difficult life and childhood. She was the first child of four. Her father was bankrupted and they had no place to live. She’d been sent to boarding school and from the beginning, she’d had a complex about poverty.

We met in Moscow during the most difficult moment in her life, when she was giving English lessons. She was not a professional teacher. But it was a way for her to earn a living.

She’d already been living in Russia for 15 years and had had a difficult life there. She was married but had no kids. But she seemed to me absolutely lovely and charming. I was working a lot and had no occasion to meet people.

It turned out, however, her aim in life was to obtain luxury, wealth and glamour. And to meet with me was a unique opportunity for her to realise her dreams. Everything was at her disposal: Private yachts, clothes, no-limit titanium credit cards. She could choose whatever she wanted. Everything was paid for and clothes were delivered at home.

In 2009, our first child was born. It was obvious that Alexandra had a completely new life with a huge staff: cooks, nannies, drivers. She became quickly very used to that. She could lose jewellery worth hundreds of thousands of pounds, forget to take clothes she’d bought from Chanel.

In 2010, I’d left Moscow to return to live in France. The pressure had slowly started to mount against me. Putin and his team had turned against me. I was not considered loyal enough, despite everything I’d done for Putin, right down to bringing him to power. Igor Sechin, Putin’s closest lieutenant, wanted my shipyards. Another Putin ally Alexei Mordashov wanted my coking coal company. And piece by piece Putin’s men took over my business empire, rigging court decisions and forcing the bankruptcy of Mezhprombank, the bank I co-founded. They took everything without any compensation. Then, they fabricated a case against me, claiming the Mezhprombank bankruptcy was my fault.

I was under tremendous pressure. By 2012, I was working day and night with lawyers to try and defend myself against the claims. Till then, I’d been spending most of my time in France. But from that year I spent most of my time in London where the team of lawyers had been assembled. It was an extremely important moment for me. I was fighting for my life against Putin, against the expropriation of my assets. But she was not interested in the court cases, which then expanded into the London courts where the Russian government obtained a freezing order against all my assets, based on a rigged Russian court case. She understood nothing about what was happening with me. She understood that Putin had seized something but she didn’t understand the extent of the calamity. She was living in Chelsea, going to all the expensive clubs I’d arranged for her to be a member of, and most of the time looking to acquire ever more expensive real estate. The first house she’d wanted to buy in Chelsea was worth £60m and it needed tens of millions of pounds more in investment to renovate it. But what she wanted most of all, it seems, was to be in the newspapers. She wanted most of all to show off to her friends. We were speaking rarely. Every winter she would go to the Carribbean and France, and spend the summer in London. Always, she had a private jet to hand. She could spend without limit. Sometimes she bought the entire collection of Chanel. One time, she planned a New Year party in New York and spent hundreds of thousands of pounds on it. But she cancelled it two days ahead of time, and all the money was lost.

But none of it seemed to satisfy her. She spoke to the children rarely. She had three nannies working for her of course. And often she fell into depression. [She’d been treated in Moscow for two years for this.] She once proposed that I should marry her, but another time she told me it would be better if I took a lover, because we had no common interests – nothing tied us apart from money.

After I informed Putin that I was suing the Russian Federation in the Hague, for the expropriation of $12bn in my assets, Russia launched a criminal case against me and tried to extradite me from the UK. I started to fear for my life. But then when SO15 launched an investigation into what appeared to be explosive devices found beneath my cars, Alexandra seemed to take it all in her stride. She’d said Putin wanted to kill us all. But at the same time she just continued to live her glamourous life. And, when SO 15 offered to provide guards she said it wasn’t necessary. But I felt huge pressure on my life and of course I decided to leave for my home, to France, where I felt I could live in greater safety, where I could live in a guarded compound, not on the unsecure and open street in Chelsea.

But after I fled, Alexandra refused to move there, even though the children were already going to a French school in London. She said she would only bring the children for holidays, and then she started asking for more and more money. Every time I wanted to speak with the children, she would ask me to send £1000 by western union first, and only then would I get to speak to them for five minutes.

March 2016 was the last time she came to my house with the children in France and she said we’d meet again in 2 weeks. We’d already chosen a private school for the children nearby. We’d bought tickets for them to return. But this turned out to be a deception. She stole the children, and never brought them again. I got information she was working with the Russian government against me, with the State Deposit Insurance Agency [Mezhprombank’s liquidator] and its lawyers pursuing me through the London courts. They were offering her preferences if she gave false testimony against me. She stopped speaking with me and turned off all her phones. Her legal defence in the recent trial over the trusts was completely inadequate, and it was based on her claim that the properties all belonged to her. But I had set up the trusts for the children, and all of the money in it was disappearing into the pockets of her giftless lawyers. For one hearing, £3m was spent on lawyers, not to mention the vast amounts she had claimed for her expenses too. I’d asked her to tell me when the court case would be. But she told me I can’t tell you because you’ll ruin the situation. I am worried there is no money left now for the children.

Interview of Sergey Pugachev.

Laaf80 · 09/04/2020 10:22

We’re they actually married, it isn’t clear to me?

PaulHollywoodsSexGut · 09/04/2020 10:23

I was with him up until he accused her of colluding with the Russian Federation.

She just strikes me as being a bit weird and an almighty twat.

aut0replenish · 09/04/2020 10:40

Wow that interview gives clarity to a lot of questions I had.

Re colluding, why isn’t she being arrested, pressurised or intimidated when in Russia? Confused

I did feel for him and felt the program became very one sided. I thought it was pretty poor actually and really below what is expect of the BBC. Started off as a glitzy look at the life doc and then just a show grabbing whatever info they could get without telling the full story of either side.

It felt to me as if she enjoyed the money and attention but the minute the going got tough and money became threatened she ditched him. What on earth is she doing with dealing with and visiting the country that is threatening to kill her ex and chop her son’s finger off and murdered others?Shock The comment about her getting on better with Russia than her ex was hugely telling.

Him having “ one of his rages” and taking the passports was maybe a tad understandable with his life and earnings at stake alongside the clarity she was taking his children, using them to get money, being deceitful and ditching him.

I felt little sympathy re the tv show. It was Putin’s company and she was very much showing which side she was on by appearing on it. Why shouldn’t he have put his side across?

She comes across as incredibly naive and her Insta feed is surreal. Those kids are constantly dressed as if living in a fantasy Enid Blyton world. There is no plastic tat,non photo appealing clothes or normal child detritus to be seen anywhere.

Is it known what exactly happened to his money and fall from grace? Maybe I’m being naive but in a case of disagreement between Putin and well anybody I think I’d go with the anybody as speaking the truth.

CoolCarrie · 09/04/2020 11:07

She should sell her handbags, clothes and shoes to get money. She was naive/ stupid not to have a running away fund for herself and the children knowing how changeable loyalty is in Putin’s Russia, it’s just a rerun of the reign of Stalin, but with more money and food.

aut0replenish · 09/04/2020 11:18

And yy to the pp the handbag collection alone could have bought a house I suspect. Confused

PaulHollywoodsSexGut · 09/04/2020 11:21

Re colluding, why isn’t she being arrested, pressurised or intimidated when in Russia

Probably because nobody gives a shit about her now she has (seemingly) acrimoniously seperated from Pugachev.

Her tactical worth is zilch. Note she never takes the kiddos to Russia.

aut0replenish · 09/04/2020 11:22

But Putin is ruthless. I wouldn’t step foot in that country unless I had some kind of reassurance.

Luc1nda · 09/04/2020 11:24

It was a strange programme for someone to make and a strange slant for a BBC journalist to take Confused

It was also a strange insight in to that kind of lifestyle. How the other half live, eh?

aut0replenish · 09/04/2020 11:28

You’d think they’d want to ensure she doesn’t know anything unless they know she knows nothing because it’s known exactly where the money is.🤷‍♀️

It’s a whole different world for sure.

Iamthewombat · 09/04/2020 11:29

I did a bit of research and the so-called title never existed. Apparently one of their ancestors was a chamberlain (supervised the servants) for Tsar Nicholas who, the family claim, was “planning” to confer the ‘count’ title on him.

Unfortunately for that family’s ambitions, the Russian revolution happened. The desperate hangers on who escaped and laid claim to the defunct Tsar title decided to give the chamberlain the count title anyway, with no authority to do so.

That hasn’t stopped that family of grasping social climbers from styling themselves ‘count’ and ‘countess’. They might as well have bought the titles on EBay. That’s genuinely all this family have to sell, and they are milking their ersatz noble connections for all they are worth.

Her father, ‘count’ Nikolai, stood as a candidate for UKIP in four general elections. Once in Barnsley, where he got 2% of the vote. I’m sure that the people of Barnsley knew a fraud when they saw one.

TheSpottedZebra · 09/04/2020 12:07

I did a bit of research = looked on Wikipedia Grin

To be fair to Alexandra, anyone is allowed to leave any relationship, at any time, for any reason. And you can bet I'd be reassessing if Putin were after my partner! And we don't know that she didn't get a running away fund or sell some of her stuff.

aut0replenish · 09/04/2020 12:15

So it was ok when he was in Putin’s inner circle.Hmm

Iamthewombat · 09/04/2020 12:26

Of course I looked on Wikipedia. Did you think that I’d be searching the archives at the British library? (I live in the north west). Travelling to St Petersburg to look at ancient scrolls?

ILikeyourHairyHands · 09/04/2020 12:28

There's an interview in the Telegraph with her, apparently she is selling off her things!

aut0replenish · 09/04/2020 12:52

Iam Grin

thenightsky · 09/04/2020 13:53

I've not seen the programme, but I was only watching her on BBC4 last night doing a programme about American cowboys and their horses. I enjoyed it and thought she came across really well.

I'm going to find the Countess and the Russian Billionaire to watch now.

Xenia · 09/04/2020 20:34

I just watched it. The first thing I remembered was the massive court action involving her father years ago. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1377434/Aldington-dies-without-penny-of-1.5m-award.html

Had the daughter got some qualifications etc she might have earned her own money.

Anyway the bottom line is that she says she had always made it clear she would never live in France with him. I don't know why (as I am like her boyfriend - the couple never married) because I also prefer a more solitary life like the children's father but there we are. I think he was genuinely close to the children but it is his decision to breach English law by going abroad in breach of a court order (which is contempt of court) which led to where they are now although I can see why he did so.

She obviously leave her boyfriend if she wants but the problem here is the fact of the children not seeing their father. Perhaps they could speak to him on skype and at age 18 if they wish re-establish contact. I don't think she took them back to England in breach of any court order as they lived in England.

In a sense Putin was right - if you marry or live with someone from a different country it does not always work out well; whereas if your partner is from the next village it is not so likely there will be international child contact issues.

He is probably rich enough to get over her and marry again and have more children and that might a solution unless he is happy now alone.