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Murder 24/7 episode 2 disappeared from iplayer?

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Izzabellasasperella · 26/02/2020 21:26

I watched the first episode yesterday and half of the second today. Went to watch the rest and episode 2 has disappeared. I want to know what happened. Very odd.

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supercee · 26/02/2020 22:03

It's there, I just checked. Just finished episode 3, I'm hooked.

doyoueverfeellikea · 26/02/2020 22:11

Just watched it before logging in here. Loving this programme

Sidge · 26/02/2020 22:40

Tonight’s episode was bizarre.

The man who killed his mum and got away with it! In such a horrific way too, she must have been so scared. 🙁

Supersimkin2 · 27/02/2020 00:17

It was so clearly a mercy killing. DM had severe dementia and no brain function at all except suffering. She didn't know what was going on. He couldn't face doing it any other way that would be quick.

A horrible burden for him to bear. The poor man.

ParkheadParadise · 27/02/2020 02:11

Just watched this

Can't actually believe he would do that to his mother.

doyoueverfeellikea · 27/02/2020 11:46

Just watched episode 3. I cried all the way through. It seemed very clear to me he did it to end her suffering. I wonder if he has kept his job to get himself out of his debts. Poor poor man

LizzieMacQueen · 27/02/2020 11:51

What would happen to her estate in these circumstances. Does anyone know? Horrific to watch.

Supersimkin2 · 27/02/2020 12:07

By law you can't profit from murder so he wouldn't have seen a penny of DM's money from the will.

The worst thing for me was all the professional carers saying that dementia patients are in such pain they ask to be killed. And the really worst thing is that they aren't. Harrowing.

Roomba · 27/02/2020 12:23

I felt very conflicted by that man. I can absolutely see how he thought he was ending her suffering, but doing it in that way? How the hell was that kinder than a pillow? That poor woman. I was very surprised by the suspended sentence and shouted 'What??!!' at the TV! I don't think he is a risk to anyone else and a long custodial sentence wouldn't benefit anyone at all, but that seemed very lenient to me given the brutality of the act. I imagine a lot of evidence was considered when reaching that sentencing decision that we weren't told about. Just comparing his sentence to that of the woman in the other case. He may have had a lot of good character references, pillar of the community, never been in trouble before... If he was an unemployed drug addict who committed the same act during a moment of madness or during a fight etc. he'd probably get 25 years.

Sidge · 27/02/2020 21:35

Me too @Roomba. I can see he thought he was helping end his mums suffering, but you can’t go round chucking demented frail old people off balconies with the notion you’re doing them a favour.

I mean it was also only a first floor balcony, not even a guarantee of death. She could have been left profoundly brain damaged, and in an even worse position.

I appreciate the strain he was under but that is no way to go about it. And his looking around to make sure he had no witnesses on the way up the stairs was chilling.

FlamingOranges · 27/02/2020 22:25

@Supersimkin2 but would that be the case, given he was found not guilty of murder but guilty of man slaughter?

FlamingOranges · 27/02/2020 22:31

Google answered - www.angliaresearch.co.uk/articles/how-homicide-affects-the-rules-of-inheritance - if anyone else is curious.

What a sad situation!

ParkheadParadise · 27/02/2020 22:38

I could maybe have some sympathy for him if he was caring for her 24/7 And finally cracked under the strain of it all.
She had been in the care home several years. The burden of her care wasn't on him personally.
I was shocked when he made the phone call to say he couldn't take the night class, WTF he had just killed his mother.

Supersimkin2 · 27/02/2020 22:39

Yep, manslaughter too unless there's a very good reason.

Toddlerteaplease · 28/02/2020 20:06

I have every sympathy with people who crack under the strain of being a carer. But throwing her off the fire escape is just brutal.

purpleme12 · 29/02/2020 00:34

I don't understand how they can stay in jail so long before they've been to trial? He stayed 7 months what if it was a case where people weren't found guilty in the end and they've spent all that time in prison?

purpleme12 · 29/02/2020 00:49

I honestly didn't think Kelly was one of them till the end when I thought she must have been I guess.
I couldn't fit her with the others

Olympicfan · 01/03/2020 15:23

Under the inheritance rules, it seems he will have been left homeless and jobless as the house was his mother's and he would not be teaching again with that on his DBS record. A very sad case. No winners.

ageingdisgracefully · 01/03/2020 17:33

I was surprised to find he got manslaughter. How? His actions appeared to be premeditated (the behaviour on the stairs). Did I miss something?

supercee · 01/03/2020 19:48

The manslaughter verdict didn't sit right with me. The empathetic side in me thinks he was probably under immense strain looking after her, the financial burden, they seemed to be reclusive.

However checking to see if anyone was looking and lobbing her off the first floor just seemed so callous and calculated. She could've survived that. He seemed very strange.

ageingdisgracefully · 01/03/2020 20:16

Yes- calculated. Calculated and premeditated.

Murder, in my book.

Still not clear on the motive though. He couldn't have inherited.

I think he just wanted rid.

Seetheprettysnowdrops · 01/03/2020 20:28

What a fascinating series.

The man who killed his mother was very odd. He seemed really together for someone who claimed a form of diminished responsibility.

The other four. OMG they turned my stomach. Filthy, disgusting lowlifes. The conduct of slater and Stephens showed an element of arrogance - that they were something special when in reality they were just dregs.

Supersimkin2 · 01/03/2020 21:13

I totally get why he did it - this really was a case of 'you wouldn't keep an animal alive like that'.

She was very, very ill indeed - the person had gone, all that was left was his mum in pain.

She had a twisted bowel which must have hurt her like hell. He'd already been told she was going to die after the recent surgery, which must have been a huge relief after decades of care and watching her suffer.

DM survived the op. She was still in pain.

mnthrowaway202020 · 02/03/2020 20:40

Currently watching the police interview of the 4th suspect in the first murder. Cringing that he refused legal advice! Just incriminating himself further and further with his lies.

Also it’s interesting seeing joint enterprise murder charges from the suspect’s POV. Yes, it is somewhat unfair that 3 of them didn’t actually kill the victim, especially the guy who was also charged with murder, but at the same time they essentially set the victim up/brought weapons etc etc.

Toddlerteaplease · 03/03/2020 22:41

How on earth did the suspect on tonight's episode walk free from court. Did the jury believe it was self defence?

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