Cheer on Netflix. WTAF?

[vivacian]

I'm in awe of the kids' athleticism, but the rest? Monica? Texas? I have no words.

[vivacian]

“Cash cow” was the exact phrase I used too!

[vivacian]

I had a lot of sympathy for D, given his childhood but you’re right. I thought he should have to experience “flying”.

[coffeeoclock]

@vivacian Me too, it was awful but it's still no excuse to openly bully another person in front of everyone.

Really liked Morgan, she seemed to lovely.

[vivacian]

I think all of the kids were pretty impressive.

[IHaveBrilloHair]

Just binged the whole thing since last night, loved it, particularly Jerry.

[jay55]

Only watched the first episode so far.
Some people do two years in community college then transfer to a four year college as a way of saving on the exorbitant tuition fees. I'd not put many of these kids in that category though.

This is a lot more like Last chance U, than previous cheerleading shows like Cheer Squad, though that was just as batshit at times.

[Ivalueloyaltyaboveallelse]

I felt sorry for all the children. Loved Morgan very sweet girl, her dad should get done for neglecting her and her brother. Jerry well he melted my heart. I just felt so sorry for D not a easy childhood and nobody to turn to. Loved Lexi, I just hope she finds her way. Tbh I wanted to hug them all. Gabi needs to move out ASAP and get away from her money grabbing family. The whole family tried to make money off her and she wasn’t even able to shower without her dad intruding on her was creepy and he came up with the idea about the swimwear!

[Ivalueloyaltyaboveallelse]

Really disliked Monica also. As others have said she just wanted to win and couldn’t careless about their welfare.

[HoneysuckIejasmine]

So is this a documentary or a drama?

[EineReiseDurchDieZeit]

6 part Documentary about the USA's leading college cheerleading team in Texas.

[Ivalueloyaltyaboveallelse]

It’s a documentary.

[IHaveBrilloHair]

I don't want to spoiler but the last episode with the brother crying set me off too.

[RandomMess]

Any cheerleader really does know the risks when they get to this level in terms of injuries etc. Cheerleading is the most dangerous female sport - presumably that is serious injuries/fatalities per participants???

Monica's point about the guy being injured in another club was because they are on a a scholarship to the college worth an awful lot of money and tbh they shouldn't really be in other clubs exactly for that reason, and certainly not in the months running up the major competition...

Every time someone is out due to injury it impacts on the rest of the team. It isn't easy just to slot someone in you have to relearn how to do that stunt move with the revised stunt group.

When the bases just weren't there to catch sherbs, that's the consequence of 2/3 people not focusing properly for a few seconds none of them were remotely in the right place.

Although it's a documentary it's still heavily edited. I'm sure if you compare it to a football manager it's just as cut throat - it is all about winning! How they test their youth leaves a lot to be desired too. I'm sure there will have been prize money involved.

I'm on the fence, how far I want my DC to get - they compete at level 4 now and they were at the top which is level 6 (or possibly they have introduced a 7 now). But serious injuries can be from a simple stunt, recurrent concussion, them being stupid and stunting not on a proper sprung mat.

Another DC plays rugby, several concussions, fractured spine, broken nose and other injuries so far...

[IHaveBrilloHair]

I had no idea cheering was an actual thing alone, I assumed they came with a sports team.
I spent the whole of the first episode wondering who they were the cheerleaders for, and then googled.
They were all bloody amazing.

[elp30]

Texan here:

Our compulsory education begins with Kindergarten at age 5 (elementary school) and goes to 12th grade (high school) and students are usually 18. Community College or Junior College is two years post high school.

Many people go to Community or Junior College for various reasons. The colleges usually offer vocational courses leading to employment after two years of study. Other students may be wanting to stay local and study what we call "Basics" at upper level and work towards the first half of a BA/BS degree. The advantage is that the cost is significantly lower than studying the same basic courses at a university. The colleges and universities have agreements on transfer of credits. Colleges also have people of different age groups studying from a newly graduated high school senior at age 18 to a proper senior at 75.

I hope this clears things up a bit.

[EineReiseDurchDieZeit]

What's confusing though @RandomMess id that in professional sport such as Rugby, the injuries are part and parcel of hoping to pursue a well paid sporting career.

Cheerleading ends in college, professional sport cheerleaders tend to be taken from colleges so all that injury is just the price you pay for free education at a "uni" which teaches at below bachelors degree level

It only seems to have an elite cache within its own community so there doesn't seem to be a lot of point just based on my understanding

[EineReiseDurchDieZeit]

@elp30

Is there a HUGE community social influence/aspiration to be involved in "being in College Cheer" having a child in cheer

Social Media boost in terms of advertising deals for cheerleaders?

[RandomMess]

I suppose there is the option to then go on to uni on a scholarship.

You have to remember a "free" education is worth £20k a year even in the states...

[RandomMess]

My DC has no chance realistically having a well paid career in rugby despite being very good because it's one of my DDs, she still plays, still gets injuries 🤷🏽‍♀️

[vivacian]

Thank you for the college explanations.

[IHaveBrilloHair]

In the sense of going further, after finishing at Navarro, only one of them really made it.

@elp30
Do people find it difficult when they have been at the top in college sports, for it to literally end?

[Omashu]

I’ve seen a few documentaries on Cheer, including this one.

I think it’s amazing to see how they can push themselves when their tired and I understand the conditioning but I think it’s all getting a bit much. As Monica said, I don’t know how much harder they can be push and how much more difficult they can make the routines. You wanna see some of the routines the have at worlds in the all star groups!

It’s not just cheerleading though where people are push even when injured. It’s sports in general. Especially when it’s a team sport!

[RandomMess]

Perhaps they will make the routine slightly longer?

Interesting how Allstar is 2mins30 and this is slightly shorter at 2mins15 - perhaps just a way to differentiate initially!

[peppinanna]

I'm on episode five. Can't decide whether I love or hate Monica 😂 Lexi is my favourite she is such a sweet heart!
Also feel so sorry for Gabi- she doesn't even seem to like cheerleading it's just her pushy parents using her as a cash cow. I wonder what she will do once the cheer leading career ends.
Morgan looks and acts a lot younger then she is but wow she's strong and determined.
Love Jerry, don't like La'Darius at all he is a complete bully

[vivacian]

Have you heard D’s backstory yet?