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Dracula

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Dipsydoodle · 01/01/2020 20:42

Anyone tuning in tonight? I'm quite excited!

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SoupDragon · 04/01/2020 10:17

He bit the camera woman's finger underwater.

iklboo · 04/01/2020 10:23

Then that would mean the man in the fridge didn't know what a fridge was.

If he's anything like my BIL2 that's not much of a stretch Grin.

The ending was far too rushed. I kept looking at the clock thinking 'how are they going to wrap this up in 15 minutes?'

Didn't stop my having vampire dreams all night though. Dead child was very creepy.

ReceptacleForTheRespectable · 04/01/2020 10:32

Ah yes, I forgot about the underwater bite.

letmeinthroughyourwindow · 04/01/2020 10:33

"Then that would mean the man in the fridge didn't know what a fridge was."

But Dracula did know what a fridge was. The woman mentioned the fridge and he said something like 'is that the white box', exactly as if he was recalling an acquired memory.

AutumnRose1 · 04/01/2020 10:59

why would the man in the fridge not know what a fridge was?!

penberrh · 04/01/2020 11:26

I’m not saying it was meant to be a shit-your-pants horror, just that there were elements of it, together with elements of camp humour and about a million other genres. It was inconsistent and kept missing the beat. I agree that it was very fan fictiony and quite amateurish. Obviously the production was professional but the underlying writing was not. I think if it wasn’t for the wealth of lore which underpins it it wouldn’t be up for much discussion at all.

Celebritydave · 04/01/2020 11:34

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DeborahAnnabelToo · 04/01/2020 11:39

I haven't looked at ALL for fanfics there aren't any

DeborahAnnabelToo · 04/01/2020 11:39

Not YET anyway Wink

SchadenfreudePersonified · 04/01/2020 11:41

Then that would mean the man in the fridge didn't know what a fridge was.

Totally possible

bingbangbing · 04/01/2020 11:42

The Lucy plot was a nod to a game- she was almost a nosferatu in Vampire the Masquerade.

I thought the whole thing was fantastic! But then I was a goth in the 90's and got the various references. Might have been a bit hard to follow if you don't know vampire lore inside out.

DeborahAnnabelToo · 04/01/2020 11:42

I'm quite sad at the opinions on this thread that fanfiction is rubbish and amateurish - like some base level of entertainment. SOME of it is, that is true, but some is really excellent and absolutely transcends the original work it is based on.

bingbangbing · 04/01/2020 11:43

I think there will be a second series- the shadowy funding for example, is J Harker actually dead? Maybe not...

SchadenfreudePersonified · 04/01/2020 11:45

More to the point, who was the utterly gorgeous crematorium worker?

Back off!! I've already laid claim @dementedma**

Ladies, ladies - stop this unseemly squabbling!

penberrh · 04/01/2020 11:45

Didn’t mean to offend you Deborah. I thought it was like the mediocre standard of fan fiction. I’m sure some fan fiction is great (and much better than this!).

SchadenfreudePersonified · 04/01/2020 11:46

bingbangbing

Oooh! That's a good suggestion . . .

xsquared · 04/01/2020 11:46

Is this the crematorium worker?

Icantreachthepretzels · 04/01/2020 12:19

DeborahAnnabeltoo - it may well have been his dream as well. But it was still her who was dying, she was having the dream - it is her who says 'this isn't real, we are in her perspective. And this was a 'kindness' he was doing for her "after all this time do you really think I would let it hurt".

So... if she doesn't want this intimacy with Dracula, if it's what he wants - then his act of 'kindness' is a violation of her in her last moments to give him what he wants. And whilst that might be true to what Dracula is - it's not a good ending for Agatha and they shouldn't treat their female protagonist with such male centred disrespect.

It's better if she is a nun with a crush - because then at least this is what she always secretly wanted.

However I don't think she was at all presented as nun with a crush in the first two episodes (if anything she was into the boat captain) so this ending was weird and came out of nowhere. A romantic ending to an intellectual relationship between equals where the characters- even though enemies - respected each other. They wouldn't have done that with a male Van Helsing.

I think that drinking blood regenerates them to the point at which they became a vampire. The point at which they turned into a vampire is the best face that they can present to the world. So, for Lucy, her partially cremated body was what she was stuck with

They never actually said as much though did they? You've head cannoned this (and it's sensible headcanon) to overcome a gaping plot hole - but canonically the plot hole remains Grin If Dracula himself became a vampire as a young man, then why does he grow old in vampire form*? If he became a vampire as an old man why can he become young but Jonathan and Lucy can't fix themselves?

I'm not sure this is ever explained in the book - it's been a long time since I read it. Maybe - being the first real vampire book and before all the lore was set down he was immortal but not eternally youthful, but could regenerate to youth by drinking blood. (This doesn't explain why he lets himself get so very old in the first place and why he isn't continually regenerating unless he hasn't drunk human blood in decades when we first meet him.) But* even if this true for the book - it falls down for the programme when he spends 120 years under the sea and is fine. Without blood he should have aged. 'Comatose' doesn't really cut it as an explanation - people in comas still age. and 'regenerating so not ageing' just throws up more questions than it answers. If all it takes is a box of soil to halt the ageing process (no blood necessary) - why did he need Jonathan Harker in the first place? How did he ever get old? He always had his box of dirt handy.

Icantreachthepretzels · 04/01/2020 12:20

Bloody bold! The big bold chunk is meant to be an asterisk from the paragraph above.

SuePerb · 04/01/2020 12:28

I enjoyed it, but it was def the worse of the three. I did like the ending. Found Lucy intensely irritating.

I hope there is a series just so I can get my fill of Claes Bang....

ParanoidGynodroid · 04/01/2020 12:46

Quick question if that’s OK... (not sure if it’s come up yet)

What age range is this suitable for? Am planning to watch, but not sure if DC will be allowed to join me yet.

Thanks!🧛‍♂️

EstebanTheMagnificent · 04/01/2020 12:59

@ParanoidGynodroid the blu-ray is a 15, and I’d say it is towards the higher end of a 15 for strong bloody violence and disturbing scenes. You know your DC but I wouldn’t allow a child much younger to watch. It is certainly much more adult than Sherlock.

ParanoidGynodroid · 04/01/2020 13:02

Many thanks, Esteban looks like it's one for after DC bedtime then!

APatchyTomCat · 04/01/2020 13:03

Another one here who has developed a crush on Mr Bang.

Worryingly, I think my husband has too 😬🧛‍♂️

QueenOfTheAndals · 04/01/2020 13:26

I just realised Mr Bang looks an awful lot like a former colleague of mine!