Don't Fuck With Cats on Netflix

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Anyone else ventured into this one. Weirder and weirder. Think I'm halfway through. Couldn't watch any of the violent bits, not an easy programme to view.

So did i!
I thought it would be irreverant humour.

I’m a bit surprised that the other pair of hands wasn’t discussed further - obviously his story was a load of crap but that’s undeniable evidence of some other involvement.

Agree about the other hands and RIP Jun. There should have been a bit more about his life.

I actually think John Green and Jennifer should be praised. Ok he may have been caught due to the murder but at least its known it was him that caused it. Not saying they were perfect but I am glad there are people that care.

The Mother is extremely deluded.

I found it strange how people couldn’t watch the animal abuse but where a bit more comfortable with the murder.

His mother is obviously totally deluded but I did feel a degree of pity for her

I also thought It would be lighter than it was. A cat based comedy which I was excited about!
As soon as the first video was spoke about and when they showed it I was shouting at him through the T.V and crying! I don’t think I’ve ever had such an angry reaction to a t.v show before!
I’m so so glad that they caught the sick bastard!
Insane how he had it all planned out in advance and almost believed he was this character.
His mum was in such denial about him but I did feel sorry for her.

Ok this is a lighthearted aside, but was anyone else struck by how crap the Montreal police chief was?

She just seemed so dopey.

Well English didnt sound like her first language. She used a few expressions that were nearly right but not quite.

There have been a few cases where hackers and other interested parties have been able to achieve more than police. Unfortunately showing up the professionals sometimes has strange consequences, i.e. getting more time in prison than the actual rapists in this case: www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/anonymous-hacker-who-exposed-steubenville-rape-case-gets-two-years-in-prison/

Yes @Sh0na obviously French was her first language (obvs she's in Montreal) but despite the language barrier I just thought her ability to do her job was compromised by her apparent ineptitude for the job.

I dunno. It seems obvious after the fact to just down tools and ask the dont fuck with cats facebook group to solve it but at the time they acted on the information they had.

We just binge watched this and found it very disturbing. I agree that Deanna / John and the rest of the vigilantes shouldn't blame themselves for being complicit - this series of criminal acts and the murder of Jun Lin was planned way before they even got involved. The instruction of the lawyer who looked like Michael Douglas 18 months prior, the various names used to create fake accounts and then comment / like comments & films. The photos used - those of the victims of the Moors Murderers etc - it was meticulously planned and he was just waiting to play with interested parties like a cat with a mouse.

Strangely, I didn't remember anything about him, other than the foot arriving in the post, and the fact that somebody suggested that the media stop talking about the killer and only talk about Jun Lin. Until this documentary therefore, I have never heard of him, only his victim.

His mother is seriously deluded. And the photo they kept panning in on of him with his arms wrapped around her neck and his hand on her face was unsettling. If anyone, she was complicit as she has enabled and facilitated his behaviour and is now in denial - allowing him to continue fuelling his narcissistic ego in her eyes.

It certainly made for interesting viewing. I think the police should learn from this that they need to work more closely with computer hackers / geeks / data analysts like Deanna and John to further certain cases / investigations.

Insofar as the Montreal police officer was concerned, I don't feel she was dopey, but certainly it was and still remains an absolutely shocking case for her to have been leading. I feel that the detective (who led him out of the plane and then interviewed him) did a sterling job in not losing his rag with him! And I think the Internet cafe owner needs a medal.

I saw the start of this thread the other week and thought no way would I watch the show as I love animals so much and couldn’t stand the thought of it.

But someone yesterday told me to watch it and I’ve just binge watched the whole thing. God it was fascinating. Kudos to the internet geeks, it was amazing what found out.

Oh and according to Wiki when he was a kid his mother put his pet cat/cats outside and they froze to death. So she’s a cat killing sicko as well.

I actually did a bit of digging on this and there's quite a bit of what I'd see as relevant which was left out.
Luca Mangotta had been diagnosed as schizophrenia for a decade before the killings and two psychiatric evaluations assessed him as being in a state of psychosis at the time of the killings. He doesn't have NPD - he is diagnosed (and the defense agreed) that he has Histrionic personality disorder.
It's really interesting- his actions were beyond horrific but he's clearly sick in the medical sense of the word .

Just finished watching this - I don't normally watch true crime documentaries, but I didn't actually realise going in that it involved a murder case. Wish I hadn't watched it, but having started I had to finish it.

I think what shocked me most was how people's emotional reaction to the animal deaths seemed much stronger than to the murder. For example, how the police chief talked clearly through what happened to Jun, but broke down when trying to say what happened to the puppy. I felt he was treated rather poorly by the documentary in general; even the title is about the cats.

I was also surprised they didn't follow up on the second pair of hands, but I assume they belong to the owner of the python who then wasn't involved in any of the other acts. The loose end that bothered me most was when one of the online sleuths was sent a video of her own workplace, suggesting she was being personally stalked by someone - nothing more was said about who did that and how they found her. That would have terrified me.

I’m joining the topic as just finished second episode and it’s fascinating and disturbing

I’ve researched the trial to enable me to sleep so I know he is in jail.

However, I can’t help feeling that maybe if that Facebook group hadn’t been set up that Lula was obviously waiting for and looking out for that he wouldn’t have felt spurred on and compelled to move on from cats.

There’s something that really doesn’t sit right with me at the lack of action from the initial police contact in Toronto too when they had given plenty of information to start looking for a guy but it took too long for them to get credibility
The police should have shit down the social media activity discussing it

The copycat guy that committed suicide might have not seen it and he might still be here too.

It’s a real example of how jurisdictions don’t work when it comes to catching a killer that doesn’t want to be caught but wants a game of cat and mouse

I couldn't watch the video bits and am ashamed to say that I was more devastated about the kittens than about the human victim

This mindset really makes me wonder about people.

I’m a bit surprised that the other pair of hands wasn’t discussed further - obviously his story was a load of crap but that’s undeniable evidence of some other involvement.

Apparently (I got this from another thread on MN) they were the hands of the owner/handler of the snake, and he had no involvement in the rest of the killings. Obviously he was involved in that one though.

"For example, how the police chief talked clearly through what happened to Jun, but broke down when trying to say what happened to the puppy. "

I thought she broke down thinking about what happened to the body after the murder, rather than thinking about the puppy. Could be wrong of course.

I'm a bit late to this but watched it in an evening and found it chilling. The level of planning that went into the while thing was off the scale. I'm so relieved he was caught as he would definitely have gone on to kill more.

I read his mother's autobiography - she is seriously disturbed. The detail that stuck with me was that his grandma used to dress him in her clothes when he was a child. I mean, what could possibly go wrong?!