The Crown - series 3

[southeastdweller]

I'm so looking forward to seeing this when it returns next Sunday!

[RuffleCrow]

The media hardly needs an excuse to pile on a middle aged woman! That's what it does!

Claire was young, blank looking and beautiful and didn't stray a centimetre from the public image the Queen has carefully cultivated - of course the DM etc loved her!

[Reallybadidea]

Oh my goodness, I never cry at TV, but the Princess Alice/DofE storyline had me doing proper gulping sobs. The dogs were looking at me in a very puzzled way

[NoSauce]

Nah it’s nothing to do with her age. There’s some amazing older actresses. I just see Olivia Coleman.

[ManonBlackbeak]

OC is staunch Labour so thats probably why the DM hates her. They attack anyone in the public eye who dares to be openly left wing.

[VanyaHargreeves]

Claire Foy cut her teeth doing period dramas though

Little Dorrit as the lead
Wolf Hall as Anne Boleyn
The Night Watch which was a WW2 thing

I can't think of m/any things OC has done outside of The Favourite that have been period.
She had been chosen for this and filmed a lot of it prior to the Oscar though

[CaptainMyCaptain]

Claire Foy was brilliant as Anne Boleyn, the memory of the execution scene still gives me the shivers. I like OC though, and can't really see the problem with her in the Crown.

[VanyaHargreeves]

I don't really have a problem with her as such

I just don't think she does that old school aristocracy cut glass voice, half as well as :

Claire Foy
Matt Smith
Vanessa Kirby

Or the revelations of this new series :

Josh O'Connor, Erin Doherty and Tobias Menzies

[RuffleCrow]

Where the media is concerned the age of a woman is always a factor @NoSauce

[Fairylea]

I am actually missing Vanessa Kirby as Margaret more than anything. HBC is okaaay but I don’t think she has the same grace and class as VK.

[KitMarlowesCodpieceOfThigh]

@LadyIsabellaWrotham He's called Angus something - it's quite a Scottish surname but I believe he's actually American.

Not that the first thing I did was look him up, or anything

[GiantKitten]

Josh O'Connor is only a revelation if you’ve never seen the Durrells

[EleanorReally]

Also just seen The Princess Alice story, more emotion from me,

[QueenOfTheAndals]

Jane Lapotaire was fantastic. I loved her interaction with the jeweller!

[Awrite]

Waaaah! My internet is down. Fault on the line, engineer coming out tomorrow.

I want to watch more dammit.

[VanyaHargreeves]

Never seen the Durrells

[CoolCarrie]

Have Wallis and David appeared yet?
I wonder who will be cast in the next lot? Judi Dench As Queenie?

[CaptainMyCaptain]

Wallis and David were in the last series.

[GiantKitten]

David will die in this series, won’t he

[VanyaHargreeves]

They did film funeral scenes

[VanyaHargreeves]

Posted too soon, but they filmed 3 and 4 back to back whilst they had the cast all in the one place, so it could be next series.

I'm only Ep 7.

[GiantKitten]

3 covers up to 1977? So he’ll be in this one.

Wallis died much later, she’ll be in 4

[onceandneveragain]

rufflecrow while usually I would agree with you wrt people judging women more heavily by their looks, for me it's not a case of looking too old, it is being too old.

Vanessa Kirby is 31 while HBC is 54. In 1964 (when S3 starts) Princess Margaret would have been 33/34. I don't think it's being sexist to point out if someone is two decades older than the character they are playing, conceivably the third series could have retained the original actors who were closer to their ages, and done the swap at a later date?

In other thoughts, I was surprised at reading an interview when OC said she had never heard of Aberfan before reading the scripts. I am much younger and have grown up knowing about it - but then I am Welsh. Is it one of those 'just missed' generational historical things elsewhere in the UK?

[WineOrGinOrBoth]

Episode 3 was heartbreaking.
HBC is growing on me still not convinced by OC though.

Dh & I couldn’t get over how bad the actress playing princess Alice Greek was. It didn’t even sound Greek. I know she’s not Greek but they could maybe have dubbed it? I don’t know. She was fantastic though once the Greek bit was over.

2 extremely moving episodes.

[VanyaHargreeves]

Very surprising. I'd heard of if and I wasn't born til 25 years later roughly.

[RuffleCrow]

Born in the early 80s. Spent loads of time in Wales as a child. Also never heard about Aberfan until now. Although the words 'welsh mining disaster' have definitely made it into my consciousness in an unspecific way prior to this.