Anyone watching this show about training kids like dogs?

[lastqueenofscotland]

How strange...

It’s called train your baby like a dog.

The controversy surrounding the programme is one, the title is misleading and people feel children are being dehumanised (for my friends who don’t have dogs, they think it’s a terrible programme!). Secondly, the trainer uses applied behaviour analysis which has quite a divided following (there are some real anti ABA people out there) so anything promoting ABA principles get shot down.

For me, anything that works with positive reinforcement has got to be a good thing. Setting the kids up for success to get it right helps build confidence and as PPs have said, it’s about being a proactive parent and not a reactive one, which leads to parents shouting at kids for behaviours that could have been prevented.

As someone who works in the dog training field, I have had so many clients say to me, had I trained my kids like I did with the dog, they would be so much better behaved! That’s not me putting words in their mouths, the key thing they realise they weren’t doing was being consistent and setting the environment up correctly for the behaviour they wanted, the onus laid with them rather than blaming their child/dog for being “naughty”.

The use of clicker may seem off putting for some, but they do use it in TagTeach and it’s very interesting how children learn from it!

tagteach.blogspot.com/2009/06/high-jump-video.html?m=1

Me to my child : ok now go and try to find some red things before the sand runs out (sounding excited)
My child: looks at me with disdain and slowly sips milk without breaking eye contact.
Quietly says 'no.....'
still giving a death stare
Mind you, yesterday we were all having fun and she broke giggles to turn to her dad. Stops laughing and coolly and calmly says
' Daddy, I don't like you'.
I can just imagine her staring at the dog trainer while sipping her milk and slowly looking her up and down. I might invite her round actually

Thanks NotwhereIshouldbe

There was a series a few years about training husbands using animal training techniques, now that was interesting.
I have an interesting book called "Don't shoot the Dog" about animal training techniques and how they relate to humans, well worth a read.

DD2 had a new puppy last year, she has followed this training with her completely and she's a delightful older puppy now, it really works.

I knew about positive reinforcement and used it with my own children and the ones I looked after as CM and nanny, and EY teacher (it's commonsense really) .

There were very few tantrums. I like Rosie's attitude to food too, giving children tapas type tastes of healthy foods all the time , not just for supper (they have small digestive systems) works well.

It was on in 2005 and was called "Bring Your Husband to Heel", it was fascinating but VERY controversial, I might see if its on Youtube...

Someone said years ago that boys are like dogs and need a good run outside every day. Thought it was sexist crap, til we had a boy

Yes flippen I advise people on here that energetic children boys need loads of exercise!! I noticed when DD1 was little and she was frightened by the boys rushing around at playgroup all the time, she called them the "running about boys". I opened a playgroup for her with separate rooms, one for the bike boys the other for the girls who liked to sit down with playdough!!!

Ds always needed worn out as a toddler - then I had dd and everyone told me she’d be calmer and less manic. Nope - her frequent trips to A&E were testament to that - she ran full pelt all the time and climbed on anything and everything (and then fell off)

Willing to bet she has no kids.

Those are the rules, only those who don't have kids tell parents how to parent!!!

Perhaps I should have a go......On the other hand perhaps not!!!

Consider yourselves well and truly saved!!!!

Deathray I totally disagree, I said in my post that I consciously did the positive reinforcement thing with my children and it works! If you treat them with humanity they respond well, it's the same with animals and most people!

I’m just watching it now, I don’t think they needed a dog trainer, they should have just sent a normal parent around to tell them not to show him things he can’t have and distract him quickly if you see a tantrum coming. I’m always fascinated as to why couples like that get pregnant with a 2nd child when they can’t cope with the one they already have. And as for the other woman how stupid and lacking in empathy do you have to be to leave a small baby screaming alone in a dark room when you already know they don’t like it. I used to lie holding DDs hand through the cot bars until she fell asleep.

Deathray she has a son, he is a toddler.

Stripey The thing is that the programmes are all in competition now, there are soo many of them, so it needed something unusual to catch the viewers.

I agree with you , I also used to hold my L.O's hand till they slept, and had them in a cot in our room, right next to the bed. The attachment theory is proven. So many parents listen to their friends or whoever tells them not to 'spoil' their babies by picking them up etc. this programme maybe helped people to listen to their instincts.

It's common sense to move delicate breakables way from them too. (out of eyesight). Well I thought it was!!!

@ppeatfruit

I completely agree, my son is four, we still do cuddles to sleep, people stop doing basic things as well, we still do skin to skin cuddles as it isn’t just something young babies benefit from. Many parents really withdraw from physical contact with their child, then wonder why as an adult their child finds it hard to show their feelings, experience physical intimacy etc. Meeting a childs needs is not spoiling, it’s vital.

My son is very secure, so on the odd occasion that I’m away he copes very well. If we didn’t have the very close bond he wouldn’t be able to cope as well in those situations.

Yes Simon DD1 has said that she feels she she has a basic security ,she's 39! I know it's because we bought her up taking the attachment theory seriously. You never find puppies and kittens being MADE to sleep alone do you?

ppeatfruit - I was being sarky about the number of 'experts' who do not have kids. I didn't say it would not work. It works on our 'cousins' in the zoo......