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Is there a thread about the Alastair Campbell documentary last night?

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ssd · 22/05/2019 19:00

I thought it was very brave but very bleak.
What did others think?

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ssd · 22/05/2019 19:13

No one?

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Pinkruler · 22/05/2019 19:33

Caught the last 10 mins and it was bleak. Will try and watch the rest on catch up.

ssd · 22/05/2019 19:36

It was excellent but so bleak. He is very brave to lay himself open like that. I admire him.

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RosaWaiting · 22/05/2019 19:38

I started to watch this but immediately groaned at the whole video diary thing.

I have depression and anxiety and found some of his previous comments really interesting and insightful - but I couldn't face a documentary style programme for an hour.

If anyone wants to summarise the key points, I'll be well chuffed - as well as being a CF, lol.

I'm always amazed by people who manage to achieve so much with this condition. I don't publicly say "This is why I don't have a good career" but tbh I believe that's why I don't. I find earning a living hard enough so ended up doing the easiest job I could find that would pay bills. I'm 43 and I still would like to earn more, much more, but I just can't seem to manage condition + career. So if he had any tips, I should probably watch it!

Youranus · 22/05/2019 19:41

Haven't yet watched it, but I thoroughly enjoyed his appearance on Into the Wild with Gordon Buchanan.

shumway · 23/05/2019 10:20

I thought the concept of the depression jar filling up was interesting.

HollowTalk · 23/05/2019 10:23

I intended to watch this but watched Stephen Graham in The Virtues and didn't think I could cope with anything else. I think he's great for being so open about depression.

WeepingWillowWeepingWino · 23/05/2019 10:27

I caught some of this, it was very good. I like Alistair Campbell, for all that he's a Machiavellian shit. He's a likeable Machiavellian shit, and his openness with his depression is to be applauded.

merrygoround51 · 23/05/2019 13:04

He was forthright but this is very much part of his media 'package' now.

It is good that it is being discussed. Depression is so individual that I am not sure that any celeb can help anyone recover but they can make them feel less alone in the darkness.

I felt a lot for his partner, a lifetime of living with this must be very hard. I got the impression she put herself and her feelings to the very end and I imagine she suffered for that (as many partners do)

WeepingWillowWeepingWino · 23/05/2019 13:53

I missed the bit with his partner. Do they/he have kids?

merrygoround51 · 23/05/2019 14:13

Weeping I didnt see if they showed how many kids but he had his grown up daughter working with him on the doc.
His partner was interviewed and filmed talking to him

ssd · 23/05/2019 19:34

Thought he was very good at explaining exactly how bad depression is, I hadn't realised how utterly awful it is.

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ElasticFirecracker · 24/05/2019 10:54

I thought this was a very interesting documentary. Initially I was slightly disappointed at the video diary, and was hoping it wouldn't just be AC saying how miserable he was.

He talked to experts and explored various ideas about depression and related means for helping, including reducing self-blame through interactive MRI, use of psychedelic drugs, electrical stimulation of the brain, relationship between the immune system, inflammation and depression. He was very reluctant to stop taking drugs, but the final discussion in the programme was with someone who explained that depression was partly genetic, but mainly environmental. In that you may have a genetic predisposition to depression, but that it is environmental factors that switch it on, and showed an analogy using a jar, which AC found most compelling, and so did I.

If you want a good explanation of the jar, watch the programme, but as I understood it, we all have a jar and it contains our genetic predisposition for depression (however great of small that may be). Life adds various environmental triggers for depression and the jar fills up with these until it is full and depression is triggered. You cannot change the size of the jar or what's in it but you can create more space by adding rings to the neck of the jar, the rings are good things like self-care, sleep, exercise, diet, things that make us feel good etc.

I don't think my description has done it justice, but I found it a very powerful analogy. In particular AC saw clearly how his hard-drinking, non-eating party lifestyle must have played a huge part in triggering his own depression.

I was interested in learning more about the jar analogy and people who use it in practice.

RosaWaiting · 24/05/2019 14:35

Thanks Elastic, that sounds like all the stuff I usually hear, so you have saved me an hour Smile

Mrstraveller · 24/05/2019 16:19

I’ve seen other programmes he has made on his depression. He seems a bit like the BBC’s go to person on the subject.It always surprised me a bit that someone with a lifetime’s experience of depression seems not to have considered the impact on Dr. David Kelly’s mental health of how he was treated.

I also watched a documentary a week or so ago about the parlous state of mental health services in Iraq. Huge numbers of people there have PTSD for obvious reasons and there is one psychiatric hospital in the whole country. To then watch Alastair Campbell and his daughter (not sure why she was involved) going round London in a taxi having the luxury of trying different treatments was a bit hard to take for me.

I do feel sorry for the fact that he’s suffered from depression for many years.

BenidormBlast · 24/05/2019 16:28

'I’ve seen other programmes he has made on his depression. He seems a bit like the BBC’s go to person on the subject'

Everytime he is on the TV he seems to talk about his depression. I'm of course all for raising awareness but he seems to focus on it and be totally defined by it rather than describing ways to manage it.

There seems to be a thing with celebs at the moment all talking at length about their depression and anxiety.

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