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Outlander questions........

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BaconAndAvocado · 14/01/2019 17:01

LOVED the first series of Outlander (particularly the, er, fine acting skills of Sam Heughan Grin )

A couple of questions that I need answering ....

  1. Series 2 episode 1 started in 1948 then just as Claire was about to set foot on American soil she's taken back to life with Jamie in 17something. Where does that leave her husband in 1948? Has she just disappeared into thin air?
  1. Was John Randall ( think that's his name, the villain who raped Jamie) killed at the end of the first series?

Tia

Hoping that Series 2 onwards will be as good as the first!

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Holidayshopping · 14/01/2019 17:03
  1. You’re supposed to be a bit confused. It starts in the 40s but then flashes back to where the first season/book ended and they’re going to France.
  2. Black Jack Randall (boo, hiss!) is in
Season 2, so no, not dead!

Season 2 is good. So are 3 and 4. The books are fab, too.

ShowOfHands · 14/01/2019 17:04

That's a flashback. Showing what happened between Clare sailing off at the end of s1 and ending up back in the present. Most of the series is a flashback.

Jack Randall is not dead no.

Series one is the best one.

Redglitter · 14/01/2019 17:06

When she went through the stones she left Frank in the 1940s. He reported her missing and she was a missing person til she came back 3 years later

Keep watching. Itll all make sense

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BaconAndAvocado · 14/01/2019 17:18

Very confused here.

So she didn't go to live in America with her 1940s husband,

Or are there 2 simultaneous dimensions happening?

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ShowOfHands · 14/01/2019 17:34

She fell through time into the eighteenth century and decided to stay there, eventually getting onto a ship bound for France. You found this out in s1.

At the beginning of s2, you find out that at some point she is going to return to the present but you don't know why. S2 tells you how/why, starting with her getting off a ship in France which is just the narrative picking up from where you stopped watching at the end of s1.

2dogsandPG · 14/01/2019 17:36

Read the books! They explain so much more 🙂 www.amazon.co.uk/Cross-Stitch-Outlander-Diana-Gabaldon/dp/0099911701

The series is good, but the books are better!

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BaconAndAvocado · 14/01/2019 17:40

I'll have to keep watching!

Would love to read the books, got so many other books in my pile!

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2dogsandPG · 14/01/2019 17:41

Fair enough. They are quite long 🙂📚 But worth adding to your list too.

blibblibs · 14/01/2019 17:44

Don't start reading them until you've finished the rest.
There like a funny little drug, once you start you can't stop and become a little bit obsessed Grin

ShowOfHands · 14/01/2019 17:47

The books are utter rubbish and poorly written but in the same way that the series is rubbish. It's like eating chocolate. Not particularly good for you, too much would make it intolerable and you wouldn't want to make it your sole consumption. But it's amusing and entertaining every now and then.

Basic thing to remember is that just because she's in the eighteenth century right now, doesn't mean she's staying there. And vice versa. There are two timelines but Claire is only ever in one at a time.

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BaconAndAvocado · 14/01/2019 18:16

there are two timelines but Claire is only ever n be at a time

This is what I'm struggling with......... I guess as the series I'll find out that she didn't just disappear after she got off the plane?

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blibblibs · 14/01/2019 18:20

She definitely doesn't disappear as she gets off the plane.
Crazy as it is there are some rules to the time travelling and the stones are where it happens.
It does all become clear at the end of season 2

hudyerwheesht · 14/01/2019 18:30

Yes keep watching and you will see both timelines play out, the one in the 40's after she goes back to Frank(following her 2 years of being away in the past with Jamie) and the other which is a series of flashbacks essentially showing how she came to leave Jamie and go back to Frank.

It annoyed a lot of people - myself included - that they started S2 with basically a massive spolier as it meant you know for the whole series exactly how it will end, ie, that she will end up going back to Frank. A lot of mumsnetters have read the books so were already aware but I preferred to let it play out as a series. The books are quite different in parts, I believe, so that might only add to the confusion anyway.

Holidayshopping · 14/01/2019 19:03

Book 2 starts way in the future as well.

ShowOfHands · 14/01/2019 20:05

Yes it's basically just a spoiler. We know we left the last series with pregnant Claire and James off to France but it won't last, here's a glimpse of the future and Claire has returned to Frank. Now let us tell you how that happens. Back to Claire and Jamie...

SummerStrong · 14/01/2019 20:14

In the 1940's her and Frank are about to move to America when she travels through the stones. She is away for 3 years.

Season 2 begins with her returning to the 1940's, after the 3 years (as a spoiler) and then the rest of the season explains how and why she returned after 3 years. (When we all know she really wants to live in the past with Fit Jamie)

Season 2 also deals with Black Jack and you'll see why he couldn't be killed off at the end of season 1.

SummerStrong · 14/01/2019 20:17

Oh...and we also learn in the beginning of season 2, after she returns that her and Frank decide to restart their life in America after all....

ShowOfHands · 14/01/2019 20:17

They weren't originally intending to move to America. That decision comes later because of the 3 years away.

BartonHollow · 14/01/2019 20:18

She's not in two separate places at once

It's flashbacks

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BaconAndAvocado · 14/01/2019 20:19

Summer re Black Jack, I did think it,didn't make much sense f,him to,be killed off as I think he's an ancestor of Frank's?

in the 1940s her and Frank are about to move to America when she travels,through the stones

But this isn't how it happens as when she gets transported back to the past at the beginning of series 1 episode 1, she has just arrived in America and is nowhere near the stones in Scotland. Aghhhhhhh!

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SummerStrong · 14/01/2019 20:20

Oh...@ShowOfHands I must have the wrong?...I thought they were discussing his offer to work at Harvard in the very first episode.

I'm already on season 3 so it's been a while Grin

ballsdeep · 14/01/2019 20:25

The series get worse as they go along. I loved season 1, this season 4 is piss poor in my opinion. Gutted

SummerStrong · 14/01/2019 20:26

It's a glimpse of her life and then a massive flashback (the whole season) explaining how she got there (all the while you know she's going to time travel again)

ShowOfHands · 14/01/2019 20:54

He was going to work at Oxford University after their 2nd honeymoon in 1945. They decide to move to Boston after she returns through the stones.

ShowOfHands · 14/01/2019 20:57

But this isn't how it happens as when she gets transported back to the past at the beginning of series 1 episode 1, she has just arrived in America and is nowhere near the stones in Scotland. Aghhhhhhh!

She is in Scotland in series 1.