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The Staircase on Netflix - anyone watching?

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Hamsterian · 18/06/2018 22:35

Have binge watched this over the weekend and can't stop thinking about it. Lots of strange dynamics going on within the family and the relationship with his children seemed so odd. And what about what happened in Germany? Also why did they only mention in the last episode that she had been strangulated too in addition to the lacerations.

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YettaTessieMarmelstein · 22/06/2018 09:18

I have just finished and thought it was fascinating. I think he is guilty as sin.
I just watched the final episode and a few things are playing on my mind.

  • “she is still breathing” the word still really bothers me
  • the 991 call was to show his distress not to get help for his wife
  • the lies he told about his military record and in his mayoral campaign
  • the adultery. Whether the wife knew or not, who’d agree to their husband seeing prostitutes?
  • the girls’ mother dying in a similar way
  • the lack of emotion he showed during his sister in law’s impact statement
  • the lack of emotion in the discussion with the elder daughter about that impact statement. (as well as the bizarre attitude of the elder daughter calling the woman crazy and saying she wanted to move on from her relationship with Caitlin)
BananaToffo · 22/06/2018 18:17

*This is not an impossible theory but it is an improbable one
*
Why is it improbable? People have been attacked by owls and, without medical attention, they'd have bled to death...which is how Kathleen died.

Her throat wasn't "crushed"...there was a broken bone. Who says that happened falling up the stairs? It may have happened fighting off the owl. We don't know.

And falling down the stairs is the single biggest cause of death in the home. It's not that rare, unfortunately. My own mother died falling down the stairs (she was an alcoholic which probably precipitated it).

And, if we're going for improbabilities...what about the highly improbable circumstance of someone being ferociously hit over the head several times and only receiving skin lacerations? Absolutely no damage to the skull at all. This is most unusual in homicidal attacks to the head.

But it is a standard finding when birds attack.

Talon shaped lacerations. Owl foot feathers in her hair. Evidence that she'd been yanking at something in her hair. Evidence that she'd been outside the front of the house. Evidence that she'd closed the front door while bleeding. Evidence that she'd fallen outside. Evidence that she approached the staircase already bleeding.

No, sorry....there's no way, given all this, anyone could suggest it's improbable enough to be dismissed as a potential solution. No way.

And, Kathleen was a middle aged woman who'd had a drink, was probably tired, maybe slightly groggy from a valium and possibly had the wind knocked out of her if it had been an owl. Having to fight it off then run inside as fast as she could would probably have meant she couldn't scream all that loudly. We certainly can't day she definitely would have been screaming and shouting her head off.

Toyboysrus · 23/06/2018 11:11

We have just discovered this programme and are up to episode 8, the guilty verdict. We were quite surprised at the verdict we were both convinced the defence had done enough to create reasonable doubt. Obviously from reading this thread theres a lot more to take into consideration.

Does anybody else think the adopted daughter Margaret is his actual daughter??? She looks so much like him and it's very noticeable when she's sitting next to one of the sons in court.

Thespringsthething · 23/06/2018 18:18

She does- but it's also true Margaret's mother looked almost identical to Patty- they look like sisters, and if you look at pictures of Elizabeth Ratliff her daughter looks like her, same nose. So, whilst is some resemblance between MP's son and Elizabeth's dd, I think you'd have to DNA to be sure and there may be other reasons.

Andylion · 23/06/2018 20:22

There are two Staircase threads on MN and I don't recall which one said that the police did a DNA test to see if Michael was Margaret's father. Is this true? Did they do a DNA test for other reasons and while they were at it, test paternity?

NellMangel · 23/06/2018 20:57

SPOILER ALERT

At the start I thought he had to be guilty.

By the end I was hoping for his case to be dismissed. I thought his defence attorney was great, the judge pretty fair, but the process rife with flaws.

A couple of things haven't been answered for me:

Was blood dry when paramedics arrived? Which would mean that death happened earlier than reported.

Why didn't he say from the outset "this is going to look awful but my adopted daughter's mother was also found at the bottom of the stairs"

How in earth did they live in the house all that time with bloodstains still all over walls? Can you not clean it up/paint? He was back there living in the house so no longer a crime scene.

Toyboysrus · 23/06/2018 22:37

I will look at the other thread thank you. So many unanswered questions.

madaki · 22/07/2018 07:33

I was also really confused about why he took the kids back from Germany to America?

Also, were they all living in that house without cleaning up the bloodstains? Surely not....

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