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Grenfell

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randomuntrainedcuntowner · 11/06/2018 21:29

Anyone watching?

I still can't believe how much the authorities failed those people both before and after.

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HelenaDove · 17/06/2018 16:26

Grenfell estate residents being forced out of council tenancies.

docs.google.com/document/d/1egVmVfp_CE5wL0Dl_ffrs7r2ZJxr4fc3QC0_fAjY364/mobilebasic

SoddingUnicorns · 17/06/2018 16:31

What can we do? There has to be something we can do.

HelenaDove · 17/06/2018 16:42

Its disgusting Unicorns Unfortunately though im not surprised.

SoddingUnicorns · 17/06/2018 17:20

I’m not either tbh, I’m heartbroken. All those people, just treated like dogs. In fact worse than dogs, less than human or animal.

How the hell have we got to here?

HelenaDove · 17/06/2018 17:30

I really dont know what to say anymore. Sad

SoddingUnicorns · 17/06/2018 18:29

I don’t either, and it’s not often I’m lost for words. I knew that world politics were taking a distinctly nasty slant recently, but this is just the most appalling dereliction of duty I’ve heard of. That and Windrush.

These people matter, all of them. The ones who died, the ones who lived, the ones who grieve. They all matter.

HelenaDove · 17/06/2018 18:41

YY Unicorns They all matter

SoddingUnicorns · 17/06/2018 18:44

It feels so pointless saying it, because we can’t change it, but if just one person sees that we give a shit I hope they feel loved.

Sounds ridiculous doesn’t it? But love, I’ve learned this year, is what the whole point is.

Cauliflowershower · 17/06/2018 18:47

It was a shocking and heartbreaking programme-that poor man leading the prayers in the mosque after his wife children had died-utterly heartbreaking.
I hope they get justice but it seems to be very long time coming.

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 17/06/2018 22:19

Hard to watch
Most of all the evil lack of aftercare
I almost can’t watch

HelenaDove · 18/06/2018 02:16

There was also the fact that tenants warned about the dangerous workmanship and the KCTMO not only didnt listen ..........they threatened them with legal action to try and keep them quiet.

more details in this article from last year.
www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/two-women-feared-dead-grenfell-10640944

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 18/06/2018 06:30

Yes . I have read that . I know
Someone that used to live in the tower

It’s all politics and Tory disdain . As that lovely older lady said ‘I paid
My rent . £700 a month ‘

HelenaDove · 18/06/2018 17:38

Susana Mendonça

@susana_mendonca
3h3 hours ago
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Dr Lane tells #GrenfellInquiry the new gas pipe put into tower in refurbishment had
incomplete compartmentation & ventilation works on night of fire - the pipe also went through staircase area - while the regs say a gas pipe shouldn’t be in a protective stairwell.

Freetogo · 18/06/2018 17:43

There are still buildings covered in the same material. Still.

notaflyingmonkey · 18/06/2018 20:55

I think only 7 of the public sector buildings covered in that cladding have been checked in the space of a year?

HelenaDove · 18/06/2018 20:58

stopfucking................i hope your friend is ok Thanks

SoddingUnicorns · 18/06/2018 20:58

There are still buildings covered in the same material

The government in 1999 were told that cladding exacerbated fire when a man died in Scotland. And again in 2009 when 3 children died in south London I believe it was. They knew all along.

HelenaDove · 18/06/2018 23:27

Not listening to tenants is part of the problem. When tenants raise issues they are always treated like they dont know what they are talking about.

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 19/06/2018 06:50

The friend had moved away before the fire but was enormously affected . Flowers

I can’t stop thinking about the council . It strange that such a horrific thing happened yet my ire is towards the council . And the govt. TM scuttling away intonher armoured car .

They were workers . Parents . Tax payers

HelenaDove · 19/06/2018 14:33

stopfucking........i get what you are saying but even if they wernt they still didnt deserve to burn to death or end up losing relatives and friends that way.

HelenaDove · 19/06/2018 14:37

Doreen Lawrence has attacked the institutional indifference faced by the Grenfell residents and others living in social housing.

www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jun/02/doreen-lawrence-grenfell-tenants-faced-institutional-indifference

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 19/06/2018 15:29

I know it’s just the disdain showed was synonymous with the Tory disdain for benefits IFSWIM ?

HelenaDove · 22/06/2018 01:19

www.insidehousing.co.uk/news/grenfell-council-was-warned-about-gaps-in-windows-by-resident-of-flat-where-fire-began-56882

In the witness statement given by Behailu Kebede, in whose flat the fire started, he revealed that he had complained about his windows not long before the fire.

As part of the 2012/16 refurbishment of Grenfell Tower, new windows were installed in every flat.

According to the report submitted to the inquiry by Professor Luke Bisby, an expert witness, gaps in these windows allowed the fire to spread from the kitchen where it started onto the cladding and then up the side of the building.

In Mr Kebede’s statement, he said: “The double glazed windows caused problems too, as they had not been correctly fitted. There were gaps in between the windows and frames. Air was entering my flat through these gaps.

“I made a direct complaint to the builders regarding this. The council sent in contractors, who, I believe, put sealant in the gaps. But this did not fully solve my problem.”

Professor Bisby’s report also identified the presence of silicone sealant in the window boards.

According to his report, this sealant is being investigated using laboratory testing at the University of Edinburgh and will be reported on in the second phase of the inquiry, which is expected to begin next year.

Mr Kebede also discussed the new heating system that was installed in the tower as part of the same refurbishment.

The pipes, another expert witness Dr Barbara Lane revealed this week, had incomplete fire safety protection at the time of the fire.

In addition, as Inside Housing revealed on the day of the fire, the installation of these pipes involved the temporary removal of safeguards in the floors intended to prevent the spread of fire from floor to floor.

Mr Kebede said in his statement: “Instead of removing the old boilers in the kitchens and placing them with the new boilers at the same place near locations, it was decided that the new boilers should be placed near the front doors of the flats. The reason for this, we were told, was that this was the cheaper option.”

The inquiry continues.

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