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The Lie of the Land

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expatinscotland · 03/05/2007 21:10

Anyone watching?

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NotanOtter · 03/05/2007 21:54

hideous heinous

Whoooosh · 03/05/2007 21:55

Am afraid that I lay the blame at Asda's feet.
Before they were bought by Wal*Mart there was no real focus on price-most people shopped where convenient.
In the battle for supremacy price (led by Asda) has become way too much of a focus.Teesco and the rest responded and here we are.

We as a nation seem to place so little value on the quality of our food or it's heritage-if it's cheap it means we can all buy more nintendos or dvd's or bigger cars etc.

expatinscotland · 03/05/2007 21:56

Support local farmers as much as you can by creating demand for their food.

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expatinscotland · 03/05/2007 21:58

I disagree.

I put the blame on a government which sold out to big business, be it ASDA, Tesco, Royal Bank of Scotland or whoever.

The profits for the few became more important than anything else.

And I blame each and every one of us who put the people in office who did this and then sat on our fat, lazy arses eating cheap crap and doing FA whilst it all happened.

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expatinscotland · 03/05/2007 22:00

Until people take personal responsibility for this, things won't change.

And guess what . . . ?

It ain't gonna change any time soon.

Until it's probably too late.

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Heathcliffscathy · 03/05/2007 22:00

agreed expat.

I do farmers market every sunday (not cheap but fab food) but I haven't managed to wean myself off supermarkets completely.

dh and i are talking about jacking it all in and buying a smallholding in the light of this programme (tbh, we have that conversation a lot and one day we'll do it)

Whoooosh · 03/05/2007 22:01

Sorry Expat-I agree-the government should never have allowed WalMart to buy Asda....it is definitely* where the problems started.

Trust me,I have been a supplier to the supermarkets all my career and suffered at their hands.

expatinscotland · 03/05/2007 22:02

we can't afford to buy.

but we've been given an opportunity to move on for a bit so we will.

we have weaned ourselves almost completely off supermarkets and there aren't any where we're going.

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NotanOtter · 03/05/2007 22:03

heartbreaking lovely moo cows

expatinscotland · 03/05/2007 22:04

I think just focusing on ASDA is vastly over-simplifying the problem, tbh.

Why are they allowing Tesco to expand at such a rate then?

Why are council officials continuing to grant Tesco planning permission left and right?

Why is the government allowing banks to rip off customers whilst posting record profits to their shareholders?

I could go on all night.

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Whoooosh · 03/05/2007 22:05

Good on you!

Have to say they are not ALL bad-Waitrose are a joy to deal with as are Booths.

Heathcliffscathy · 03/05/2007 22:06

tbh worrying about the individual calves and cows is a tad hypocritical of anyone that eats any factory farmed meat (and i'm not aware of any takeaways that use meat of good provenance). so i steeled myself in the shooting scenes. the irony is that all of these animals are having a 'better' death than animals have in abbatoirs.

Whoooosh · 03/05/2007 22:08

It is simplifying it Expat-purely because that is where it started.
Before Asda/Wal*Mart started the price war,all supermarkets rubbed along with their respective positions-Tesco once threatened by the really big boys had to come out fighting.
And now they are completely out of control.

Simplifying yes but definitely whee it all started.

expatinscotland · 03/05/2007 22:10

Lower production costs.

And if you think it's cruel the way these calves have been shot, wait till you see what someone from a country with no welfare system at all will do to keep from starving, folks!

And there you go people! What did I tell you?

More holiday homes! Let's write a happy chappy chick lit novel about the holiday getaway and sell it in Tesco for lazy arses to read whilst they scoff down some cheap food!

Talk about fiddling whilst Rome burns.

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expatinscotland · 03/05/2007 22:12

It would have started no matter what, Whoosh.

I hate to break that to you.

When you have a government who puts the profits of a few - shareholders - before anything and EVERYTHING else, you put in motion of a chain of events that has dire consequences for everyone but those few.

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Heathcliffscathy · 03/05/2007 22:17

i'm really sorry and iknow rats are intelligent and everything but pmsl at ratting terriers.

expatinscotland · 03/05/2007 22:18

Those rats are the size of marmots!

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Heathcliffscathy · 03/05/2007 22:19

and pmsl at the blokes SO over excited

expatinscotland · 03/05/2007 22:19

K. Predators eat livestock.

So how did it manage to 'outfox' a human being?

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NotanOtter · 03/05/2007 22:23

gross -poor mr fox

Heathcliffscathy · 03/05/2007 22:24

the point surely is the hunting was a far less potentially cruel way to die.

Heathcliffscathy · 03/05/2007 22:25

i was pro the hunting ban

Whoooosh · 03/05/2007 22:25

Oh I do lvoe cows and would love a Dexter as a pet....

Whoooosh · 03/05/2007 22:26

Oh no....feel and abbatoir scene coming on......

expatinscotland · 03/05/2007 22:26

They moo in distress, too.

They go white-eyed, like horses.

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