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kill it,cook it,eat it?

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ash6605 · 06/03/2007 13:22

did anyone see that last night?
i know cow's have to die for us to enjoy a steak but i found it so upsetting i'm thinking of going vege.

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spykid · 07/03/2007 11:08

I ds asked I gusess I might let him watch.

I would rather my kids be well informed and hope they make the choices that are right for them

but as I said....only if they asked

NotanOtter · 07/03/2007 11:09

blu - vets are paid well to work in a slaughter house
they are under enormous pressure to PASS the animals as fit often in quite a 'bullying' environment

i dont think they are lways present and anyway they are there as 'meat inspectors, not to check things are humane

nikkie · 07/03/2007 13:13

I caughtth eend of it the other day, did they actualy kill the animal on TV?

spykid · 07/03/2007 13:52

yes

speedymama · 07/03/2007 14:01

Compared to how a lion stalks, chases and kill its prey in the wild, the slaughterhouse is far more animal-mane, iykwim. You ever watch a cat torment a bird or mouse after it has caught it? Most of the time they don't bother to eat their prey.

IMHO, people these days too squeamish because of the sanitised lives we lead. If you lived in the wild and a lion saw you, it would think "food" as oppose to, "oh, aren't humans warm and cuddly".

Of course animal husbandry should be of the highest standards and it behoves us as the alpha species to ensure that the animals we rear for food are well treated.

Ultimately, life for all animals is about survival of the fittest and humans are at the top of the food chain.

expatinscotland · 07/03/2007 14:02

Lions are merciful compared to hygenas. Have you seen how they 'kill'? They basically start eating their prey alive!

It's grim.

Whoooosh · 07/03/2007 14:09

Having worked in the food industry all my career,I can tell you that the slaughtermen were definitely on their best behaviour.

Time is of the essence (to them) when processing livestock and believe me,many an animal suffers due tot he stun probes not being applied correctly or for long enough and captive bolts have to be placed absolutely correctly.

Many are strung up and gutted alive.

The terror the feel prior due to the noise and smell should not be underestimated either.I am not a veggie and I only eat "happy" meat-ie raised correctly,unfortunately the end is rarely as pleasant as it should be.

trillium · 07/03/2007 14:37

We also rear our own chickens for eggs/meat, and dd (7) has always been involved.

She's also witnessed a cow (which she had been involved in the care of) strung up shortly after it's death, minus it's head (which was on the ground nearby). She declared the subsequent casserole delicious and said she was glad that she knew the cow had led a happy life

On the occasions we do buy chicken we only buy organic free range as we refuse to condone the cruel chicken industry.

We'd rather eat less meat but be reassured that it has led as happy/natural a life as possible.

speedymama · 07/03/2007 14:38

Yes I agree Expat. Hyenas are loathesome creatures.

speedymama · 07/03/2007 14:48

Just thought, don't some snakes digest their prey whilst they are still alive in their digestive tract? Now that is gruesome.

spykid · 07/03/2007 15:42

Oh Whoosh, thats spoiled the positive feeling the programee had left me with

Whoooosh · 07/03/2007 15:48

Sorry Spykid

Butkin · 07/03/2007 17:10

I'm all in favour of animals and bird being treated with respect and I think we should encourage retailers to demand this, rather than just keep on driving prices down.

However I'm a meat eater as is DD (although she seems to like cheese, fruit and veg more).

As I see it if the majority of people did become veggie then there would be no need for farmers to breed cows and pigs and the countryside would be the poorer place for this.

Economically if we like to see happy, well bred and reared animals we have to expect them to be killed.

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ash6605 · 07/03/2007 20:15

WHOOOOSH i wish you'd never told us that!
mind you,they're bound to be on their best behaviour in front of a t.v crew and millions of veiwers,i can well imagine that corners are cut in reality.

DIMPLED THIGHS-if you were upset by the pig one,last nights would have been just as upsetting,it was done in the exact same way.i imagine tonights will be the same.
i know i wouldn't show my son that kind of thing,he's 7 year old,quite mature also but i'm a strong believer in that kids should be allowed to be kids without worrying about things like that they grow up quickly enough as it is.but that just me and if you think it will achieve something by showing him it thats your choice but i would definately warn him beforehand that its pretty gruesome.

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chocolatekimmy · 07/03/2007 21:03

I thought it was a good program but you could tell it was a bit 'fixed' for the camera. The place was immaculately clean for a start.

I think it was a family run slaughterhouse too and not as automated as the big ones. I imagine it is different for real as whooosh pointed out.

It looked very humane though, I don't think the bolt or the stun gun caused any suffering. The animals looked very calm, I think i expected them to be thrashing about and trying to escape with terror in their eyes.

It couldn't have been any more explicit or gruesome. The blood gushing from the cut neck was shocking as was the head being severed (but how sharp are those knives!).

It hasn't put me off, seeing the end result looked like meat - I can disassociate that from the live animal it once was.

I think it may be too much detail for a child. Yes explain the basics regarding the process but its not really necessary to let them see it

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